I have partial scholarship; I registered online for accommodation and event ticket, but don't seem to have received any details of where I'm staying - should I have, at this stage?
(I have checked the website, but an see nothing at:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation
or its linked pages, which answers my question.)
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
Mardetanha
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
I have partial scholarship; I registered online for accommodation and event ticket, but don't seem to have received any details of where I'm staying - should I have, at this stage?
(I have checked the website, but an see nothing at:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation
or its linked pages, which answers my question.)
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Related question: How about those who booked a Wikimania ticket including accommodation, but aren't WMF scholarship recipients? When will we know our accommodation details?
Deryck On 6 Jun, 2016 3:26 pm, "Mardetanha" mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
Mardetanha
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
I have partial scholarship; I registered online for accommodation and event ticket, but don't seem to have received any details of where I'm staying - should I have, at this stage?
(I have checked the website, but an see nothing at:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation
or its linked pages, which answers my question.)
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On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
I don't either and would appreciate the details asap.
Best, Shani.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there. Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying? Thanks,Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbettandy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Iolanda,
I have confirmation for the event itself, but I did not get any confirmation re accommodations. This has been filled out a long time ago and we have been waiting and waiting for an answer on accommodation. We were told it will be sent out this week. Now you are saying "you either have accommodation or you don't". This is very vague and many people do not know where they stand. Who can we contact to check what's happening and whether or not we have been allocated a place to stay?
Thanks, Shani.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Dear Shani,
I confirm that if you have registered on eventbrite for the ticket with accommodation then you have been allocated a place to stay in Esino. If you want more specific information please send an e-mail to
wikimania-accommodations@wikimedia.org
Thanks, Marta
Il 13/06/16 14:32, Shani ha scritto:
Iolanda,
I have confirmation for the event itself, but I did not get any confirmation re accommodations. This has been filled out a long time ago and we have been waiting and waiting for an answer on accommodation. We were told it will be sent out this week. Now you are saying "you either have accommodation or you don't". This is very vague and many people do not know where they stand. Who can we contact to check what's happening and whether or not we have been allocated a place to stay?
Thanks, Shani.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Iolanda Pensa <iolanda@pensa.it mailto:iolanda@pensa.it> wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival. Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation. I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolandaIl giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com <mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com>> ha scritto: Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there. Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying? Thanks, Harry Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk <mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com> wrote: > as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately > very soon A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l_______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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(how about we just assume absolutely everyone who registered for accommodation *is* interested in more details, and save them the trouble of writing individual e-mails? If the organizers can just confirm that everyone will receive "more details" about *their specific* accommodation in the coming 24-48 hours, I'm sure lots of people would be quite relieved.)
A.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Marta Pigazzini mc.pigazzini@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Shani,
I confirm that if you have registered on eventbrite for the ticket with accommodation then you have been allocated a place to stay in Esino. If you want more specific information please send an e-mail to
wikimania-accommodations@wikimedia.org
Thanks, Marta
Il 13/06/16 14:32, Shani ha scritto:
Iolanda,
I have confirmation for the event itself, but I did not get any confirmation re accommodations. This has been filled out a long time ago and we have been waiting and waiting for an answer on accommodation. We were told it will be sent out this week. Now you are saying "you either have accommodation or you don't". This is very vague and many people do not know where they stand. Who can we contact to check what's happening and whether or not we have been allocated a place to stay?
Thanks, Shani.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
separately
very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Thanks, Marta. However, my specific case is not the most relevant here and I have to agree with Asaf -- people have been waiting patiently long enough and need details at this point.
I am sure you are all doing your best and am confident that time and energy will be allocated to notify people individually, as done in previous similar events.
Best, Shani.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
(how about we just assume absolutely everyone who registered for accommodation *is* interested in more details, and save them the trouble of writing individual e-mails? If the organizers can just confirm that everyone will receive "more details" about *their specific* accommodation in the coming 24-48 hours, I'm sure lots of people would be quite relieved.)
A.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Marta Pigazzini mc.pigazzini@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Shani,
I confirm that if you have registered on eventbrite for the ticket with accommodation then you have been allocated a place to stay in Esino. If you want more specific information please send an e-mail to
wikimania-accommodations@wikimedia.org
Thanks, Marta
Il 13/06/16 14:32, Shani ha scritto:
Iolanda,
I have confirmation for the event itself, but I did not get any confirmation re accommodations. This has been filled out a long time ago and we have been waiting and waiting for an answer on accommodation. We were told it will be sent out this week. Now you are saying "you either have accommodation or you don't". This is very vague and many people do not know where they stand. Who can we contact to check what's happening and whether or not we have been allocated a place to stay?
Thanks, Shani.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
separately
very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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The organizing team will be sending an email to all people who registered with accommodation packages in the next 48 hours with more information about check-in, registration, etc.
Ellie
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Shani shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, Marta. However, my specific case is not the most relevant here and I have to agree with Asaf -- people have been waiting patiently long enough and need details at this point.
I am sure you are all doing your best and am confident that time and energy will be allocated to notify people individually, as done in previous similar events.
Best, Shani.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
(how about we just assume absolutely everyone who registered for accommodation *is* interested in more details, and save them the trouble of writing individual e-mails? If the organizers can just confirm that everyone will receive "more details" about *their specific* accommodation in the coming 24-48 hours, I'm sure lots of people would be quite relieved.)
A.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Marta Pigazzini mc.pigazzini@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Shani,
I confirm that if you have registered on eventbrite for the ticket with accommodation then you have been allocated a place to stay in Esino. If you want more specific information please send an e-mail to
wikimania-accommodations@wikimedia.org
Thanks, Marta
Il 13/06/16 14:32, Shani ha scritto:
Iolanda,
I have confirmation for the event itself, but I did not get any confirmation re accommodations. This has been filled out a long time ago and we have been waiting and waiting for an answer on accommodation. We were told it will be sent out this week. Now you are saying "you either have accommodation or you don't". This is very vague and many people do not know where they stand. Who can we contact to check what's happening and whether or not we have been allocated a place to stay?
Thanks, Shani.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell < hjmwiki@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
separately
very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Ellie Young eyoung@wikimedia.org wrote:
The organizing team will be sending an email to all people who registered with accommodation packages in the next 48 hours with more information about check-in, registration, etc.
many thanks for this reassuring message!
dj
Ellie, thank you for all your hard work -- I believe I'm not the only one who appreciates your prompt replies and consistent, open line of communication with volunteers from across the globe. We truly appreciate it.
All the best, Shani.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Ellie Young eyoung@wikimedia.org wrote:
The organizing team will be sending an email to all people who registered with accommodation packages in the next 48 hours with more information about check-in, registration, etc.
Ellie
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Shani shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, Marta. However, my specific case is not the most relevant here and I have to agree with Asaf -- people have been waiting patiently long enough and need details at this point.
I am sure you are all doing your best and am confident that time and energy will be allocated to notify people individually, as done in previous similar events.
Best, Shani.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
(how about we just assume absolutely everyone who registered for accommodation *is* interested in more details, and save them the trouble of writing individual e-mails? If the organizers can just confirm that everyone will receive "more details" about *their specific* accommodation in the coming 24-48 hours, I'm sure lots of people would be quite relieved.)
A.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Marta Pigazzini <mc.pigazzini@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear Shani,
I confirm that if you have registered on eventbrite for the ticket with accommodation then you have been allocated a place to stay in Esino. If you want more specific information please send an e-mail to
wikimania-accommodations@wikimedia.org
Thanks, Marta
Il 13/06/16 14:32, Shani ha scritto:
Iolanda,
I have confirmation for the event itself, but I did not get any confirmation re accommodations. This has been filled out a long time ago and we have been waiting and waiting for an answer on accommodation. We were told it will be sent out this week. Now you are saying "you either have accommodation or you don't". This is very vague and many people do not know where they stand. Who can we contact to check what's happening and whether or not we have been allocated a place to stay?
Thanks, Shani.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell < hjmwiki@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
separately
very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Hi all,
This is not official but practical advice for attendees — if your luggage is lost/delayed/separated from you, it will likely never make it to you in Esino Lario during the conference. It is too far, and off the main transportation routes for any airline to deliver it to you. They’ll probably hold it at the main airport for when you return.
Therefore, please pack and keep with you as carry on luggage a bare minimum of clothes/toiletries/medication you need for the entire conference in case the worst happens.
Safe travels, -Andrew
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
separately
very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Hi Risker (and all),
This is not official but practical advice for attendees.
Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario
The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC) (according to http://www.rosadellealpi.it/)
You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p
--Takashi Ota [[U:Takot]]
2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker risker.wp@gmail.com:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
lying on immigration forms isnt the best of ideas, if found out(small risk) it'll see you having trouble obtaining visas for many countries in the future.
a cynical person would think that this is part of conspiracy to drive away community support for Wikimanias in the future.
On 13 June 2016 at 22:37, Takashi OTA supertakot+wikimania@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Risker (and all),
This is not official but practical advice for attendees.
Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario
The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC) (according to http://www.rosadellealpi.it/)
You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p
--Takashi Ota [[U:Takot]]
2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker risker.wp@gmail.com:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l Hi Risker (and all),
This is not official but practical advice for attendees.
Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario
The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC)
You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p
2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker risker.wp@gmail.com:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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There is small risk with putting false address - as immigration officers sometimes requires confirmation of booking of accommodation. I guess - maybe not for reach looking people from reach countries - but if you claim staying in 4 star hotel, and looking poor - it is is automatically suspicious...
2016-06-13 16:37 GMT+02:00 Takashi OTA supertakot+wikimania@gmail.com:
Hi Risker (and all),
This is not official but practical advice for attendees.
Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario
The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC) (according to http://www.rosadellealpi.it/)
You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p
--Takashi Ota [[U:Takot]]
2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker risker.wp@gmail.com:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l Hi Risker (and all),
This is not official but practical advice for attendees.
Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario
The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC)
You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p
2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker risker.wp@gmail.com:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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For immigration purposes and luggage lost, please communicate the address Associazione Comitato Wikimania Esino Lario 2016 via Montefiori 19 23825 Esino Lario
It is the association managing the accommodation during Wikimania. We centralized the registration and the accommodation, and we will be communicating all the data to the police as requested by the Italian legislation. The association is based at Villa Clotilde which will host the offices during Wikimania and it will always be open.
In case of visa recipients who requested the letter from an hotel, please use the address we already provided you. thanks iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 16:46, Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com ha scritto:
There is small risk with putting false address - as immigration officers sometimes requires confirmation of booking of accommodation. I guess - maybe not for reach looking people from reach countries - but if you claim staying in 4 star hotel, and looking poor - it is is automatically suspicious...
2016-06-13 16:37 GMT+02:00 Takashi OTA <supertakot+wikimania@gmail.com mailto:supertakot+wikimania@gmail.com>: Hi Risker (and all),
This is not official but practical advice for attendees.
Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario
The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC) (according to http://www.rosadellealpi.it/ http://www.rosadellealpi.it/)
You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p
--Takashi Ota [[U:Takot]]
2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com mailto:risker.wp@gmail.com>:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa <iolanda@pensa.it mailto:iolanda@pensa.it> wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com mailto:mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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This is not official but practical advice for attendees.
Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario
The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC)
You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p
2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com mailto:risker.wp@gmail.com>:
Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required.
Risker/Anne
On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa <iolanda@pensa.it mailto:iolanda@pensa.it> wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com mailto:mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Iolanda, I find this entirely unsatisfactory:
“If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport.”
The link never worked the many times I tried. Andy Mabbett and I have reported to you the problems with the Eventbrite link being listed as “unavailable.” Your current schedule says on a main travel day of Thursday, 23 June, only enough people (4?) have requested Malpensa -> Esino transportation. I find that hard to believe considering the volume of folks going to the conference.
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Journey/Airports
Can we please get some more help for coordinating travel from the Wikimania team? I feel we are working in the dark here. Thanks.
-Andrew
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Dear Wikimania team
First of all, let me say that I appreciate all your hard work on the event and I can't even begin to imagine the workload you all must have. However, I too find such response entirely unsatisfactory - if the organising team made the decision to hold the event at a remote location, I find that it is a justified expectation that you would provide means for people to get to and from the venue. As it has been mentioned before, I too experienced problems with Eventbrite with the link not working, the tickets for the transfer being "unavailable" well before the deadline for registration and then received no answer to my inquiry about it for about a week. I empathize with you all, I really do, I know the workload must be immense, but at the same time, the problem with the registration system and the general lack of information about the transport/accommodation situation is hardly the attendees' fault and I feel like at this point (with one week left until the conference) just shrugging shoulders and saying "well, if you don't have the ticket, you don't have transfer/accommodation" is, quite frankly, unbelievable. I do hope it will all work out well and will look forward to a productive conference.
Best of luck to the team, Mari Vallik
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
Iolanda, I find this entirely unsatisfactory:
“If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport.”
The link never worked the many times I tried. Andy Mabbett and I have reported to you the problems with the Eventbrite link being listed as “unavailable.” Your current schedule says on a main travel day of Thursday, 23 June, only enough people (4?) have requested Malpensa -> Esino transportation. I find that hard to believe considering the volume of folks going to the conference.
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Journey/Airports
Can we please get some more help for coordinating travel from the Wikimania team? I feel we are working in the dark here. Thanks.
-Andrew
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
separately
very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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Dear Andrew,
the link worked, it has been active until the 31st of may and we have received a number of bookings for the bus transfer from the airport to Esino and back. It was closed on the 31st in order for us to define the number of buses and set a timetable. Stuart is now working on re-opening the registration to buy the remaining seats at the following link:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikimania-2016-airport-transfers-tickets-226705...
Please also note that the main arrival is on the 21st of June (we are expecting approx. 70% of participants on this day). This is why we do not have many people booked for Thursday the 23rd.
Kind regards, Marta
Il 13/06/16 15:58, Andrew Lih ha scritto:
Iolanda, I find this entirely unsatisfactory:
“If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport.”
The link never worked the many times I tried. Andy Mabbett and I have reported to you the problems with the Eventbrite link being listed as “unavailable.” Your current schedule says on a main travel day of Thursday, 23 June, only enough people (4?) have requested Malpensa -> Esino transportation. I find that hard to believe considering the volume of folks going to the conference.
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Journey/Airports
Can we please get some more help for coordinating travel from the Wikimania team? I feel we are working in the dark here. Thanks.
-Andrew
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Iolanda Pensa <iolanda@pensa.it mailto:iolanda@pensa.it> wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival. Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation. I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolandaIl giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com <mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com>> ha scritto: Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there. Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying? Thanks, Harry Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk <mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com> wrote: > as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details separately > very soon A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l_______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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Please let us know when the bus transfers are open again.
I will note:
The May 15 cutoff date for registration with accommodation was NOT announced on the mailing list.
The May 31 cutoff date for airport transfers to be booked was NOT announced on the mailing list.
From what I can tell, the announcement that the bus transfers were
available for online purchase was May 16, in a response email by Iolanda. There was no standalone announcement. That is, there was no email titled “Bus transfers available for purchase” to let people know. Apparently, purchasing a bus transfer was only available two weeks. That is much too narrow a window, much too little fair notice, on top of a very confusing procedure.
In fact, if you look at the entire May archive of Wikimania-L, there is far too little communication.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2016-May/thread.html
There are only 4 threads and 23 total messages, most of them questions and requests from individuals. I’m pleading with the organizers to err on the side of too much, rather than too little communication.
I can only feel that those trying to attend Wikimania who are not WMF staff or full scholarship recipients are being treated as second class attendees.
I understand how hard organizing Wikimania is, as I was involved in many aspects of executing the conference in its early years. However, clear travel logistics is something the organizer must guarantee. The bidding team knew this when it started with this unusual bid, and it must follow through.
-Andrew
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Marta Pigazzini mc.pigazzini@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Andrew,
the link worked, it has been active until the 31st of may and we have received a number of bookings for the bus transfer from the airport to Esino and back. It was closed on the 31st in order for us to define the number of buses and set a timetable. Stuart is now working on re-opening the registration to buy the remaining seats at the following link:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikimania-2016-airport-transfers-tickets-226705...
Please also note that the main arrival is on the 21st of June (we are expecting approx. 70% of participants on this day). This is why we do not have many people booked for Thursday the 23rd.
Kind regards, Marta
Il 13/06/16 15:58, Andrew Lih ha scritto:
Iolanda, I find this entirely unsatisfactory:
“If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport.”
The link never worked the many times I tried. Andy Mabbett and I have reported to you the problems with the Eventbrite link being listed as “unavailable.” Your current schedule says on a main travel day of Thursday, 23 June, only enough people (4?) have requested Malpensa -> Esino transportation. I find that hard to believe considering the volume of folks going to the conference.
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Journey/Airports
Can we please get some more help for coordinating travel from the Wikimania team? I feel we are working in the dark here. Thanks.
-Andrew
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Iolanda Pensa iolanda@pensa.it wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation.
I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda
Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there.
Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying?
Thanks, Harry
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On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
separately
very soon
A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Iolanda Pensa wrote:
dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
I will be arriving on the 22nd, as will at least 1 other person, will there be someone in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario on that day? If not how do we find out where we are staying?
Chris
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The team is about to send information out to everyone who has registered for the conference with accommodation package (today). All that information will be there.
But to answer, your question regarding the Piazza Italia check-in/reception:
It will be open from 8.30 a.m. to 7.30 p.m. every day, and until the last transfer bus from the airport arrives on the 21st and 23rd of June.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Chris McKenna cmckenna@sucs.org wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Iolanda Pensa wrote:
dear all
Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival.
I will be arriving on the 22nd, as will at least 1 other person, will there be someone in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario on that day? If not how do we find out where we are staying?
Chris
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Hi Ellie,
Op 14-6-2016 om 21:11 schreef Ellie Young:
The team is about to send information out to everyone who has registered for the conference with accommodation package (today). All that information will be there.
I received an email with some information, but not where I'm staying exactly and with who. I'm not feeling very comfortable traveling without knowing this information beforehand and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Why are you keeping this secret?
Maarten
I guess it was easier to send the same E-mail to many recipents, than to copy-paste addresses and roomates names. If there is no any script able to do it automatically using data from database that it is a lot of work for someone. Or maybe - such database does not exist - and our keys will be given to us somehow randomly :-) We can later call it Italian Roulette :-)
2016-06-15 22:30 GMT+02:00 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl:
Hi Ellie,
Op 14-6-2016 om 21:11 schreef Ellie Young:
The team is about to send information out to everyone who has registered for the conference with accommodation package (today). All that information will be there.
I received an email with some information, but not where I'm staying exactly and with who. I'm not feeling very comfortable traveling without knowing this information beforehand and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Why are you keeping this secret?
Maarten
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com wrote:
I guess it was easier to send the same E-mail to many recipents, than to copy-paste addresses and roomates names. If there is no any script able to do it automatically using data from database that it is a lot of work for someone. Or maybe - such database does not exist - and our keys will be given to us somehow randomly :-) We can later call it Italian Roulette :-)
If the information is in a google spreadsheet and we're already using google apps for mail, then script for this is somewhat trivial within google docs. (and maybe i could provide some help with this)
Cheers, Katie
2016-06-15 22:30 GMT+02:00 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl:
Hi Ellie,
Op 14-6-2016 om 21:11 schreef Ellie Young:
The team is about to send information out to everyone who has registered for the conference with accommodation package (today). All that information will be there.
I received an email with some information, but not where I'm staying exactly and with who. I'm not feeling very comfortable traveling without knowing this information beforehand and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Why are you keeping this secret?
Maarten
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Dear all, we confirmed your accommodation but we are unable to send you the details of your beds and roommate before your arrival. It is not that we are incapable of doing it, but it is because it is easier for us to provide you this information once you arrive. Below you can find out why. iolanda
This is the system which works best for us because we have people keeping requesting beds (even after the registration was closed - and i am sure some of you benefitted from our capacity of managing it), people changing their accommodation even 4 days ago or asking for more nights just yesterday; today we were even informed that an husband is coming we did not know about. This is happening all the time with our 738 bed. And on the other side there are all the requests of the around 100 people and hotels providing the beds.
When you go to an hotel you are not informed about your room number or floor before your arrival, and if you go to an hostel you don’t have the names of your roommates. The way we are managing the accommodation in Esino Lario is not different. It is all simple shared accommodation and we are happy to do our best to make it the most welcoming. There are no surprises. We are following our plan [1] and Esino Lario is still (as 3 years ago) a remote mountain village of 761 inhabitants. Well, in a week 1761.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario).
Il giorno 16 giu 2016, alle ore 00:02, aude aude.wiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek@gmail.com mailto:polimerek@gmail.com> wrote: I guess it was easier to send the same E-mail to many recipents, than to copy-paste addresses and roomates names. If there is no any script able to do it automatically using data from database that it is a lot of work for someone. Or maybe - such database does not exist - and our keys will be given to us somehow randomly :-) We can later call it Italian Roulette :-)
If the information is in a google spreadsheet and we're already using google apps for mail, then script for this is somewhat trivial within google docs. (and maybe i could provide some help with this)
Cheers, Katie
2016-06-15 22:30 GMT+02:00 Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl mailto:maarten@mdammers.nl>: Hi Ellie,
Op 14-6-2016 om 21:11 schreef Ellie Young:
The team is about to send information out to everyone who has registered for the conference with accommodation package (today). All that information will be there.
I received an email with some information, but not where I'm staying exactly and with who. I'm not feeling very comfortable traveling without knowing this information beforehand and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Why are you keeping this secret?
Maarten
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Thank you Iolanda and Ellie. The assurance that I have a bed is enough to put my mind at rest. I don't envy you the logistics of accommodating hundreds of people in a small town, but at least we'll stand out! Harry
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On Wed, 15 Jun, 2016 at 23:39, Iolanda Pensaiolanda@pensa.it wrote: Dear all, we confirmed your accommodation but we are unable to send you the details of your beds and roommate before your arrival. It is not that we are incapable of doing it, but it is because it is easier for us to provide you this information once you arrive. Below you can find out why.iolanda This is the system which works best for us because we have people keeping requesting beds (even after the registration was closed - and i am sure some of you benefitted from our capacity of managing it), people changing their accommodation even 4 days ago or asking for more nights just yesterday; today we were even informed that an husband is coming we did not know about. This is happening all the time with our 738 bed. And on the other side there are all the requests of the around 100 people and hotels providing the beds. When you go to an hotel you are not informed about your room number or floor before your arrival, and if you go to an hostel you don’t have the names of your roommates. The way we are managing the accommodation in Esino Lario is not different. It is all simple shared accommodation and we are happy to do our best to make it the most welcoming. There are no surprises. We are following our plan [1] and Esino Lario is still (as 3 years ago) a remote mountain village of 761 inhabitants. Well, in a week 1761. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario).
Il giorno 16 giu 2016, alle ore 00:02, aude aude.wiki@gmail.com ha scritto:
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com wrote:
I guess it was easier to send the same E-mail to many recipents, than to copy-paste addresses and roomates names. If there is no any script able to do it automatically using data from database that it is a lot of work for someone. Or maybe - such database does not exist - and our keys will be given to us somehow randomly :-) We can later call it Italian Roulette :-)
If the information is in a google spreadsheet and we're already using google apps for mail, then script for this is somewhat trivial within google docs. (and maybe i could provide some help with this) Cheers,Katie
2016-06-15 22:30 GMT+02:00 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl:
Hi Ellie,
Op 14-6-2016 om 21:11 schreef Ellie Young:
The team is about to send information out to everyone who has registered for the conference with accommodation package (today). All that information will be there. I received an email with some information, but not where I'm staying exactly and with who. I'm not feeling very comfortable traveling without knowing this information beforehand and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Why are you keeping this secret?
Maarten
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