there is very few sections (presentations, workshops etc.), where the
slides and the recordings are linked from the Wikimania wiki.
If you have the presentation slides and/or a video recording, please upload
and link them from the event page.
(Link to the corresponding Commons category would be useful as well.)
As it happens with all wikimania wikis upon completion of the event,
the wikimania2018wiki is in the process of being closed. Closing means
that the wiki and its contents will continue to be online and readable
by all, but account creation and editting will be restricted.
I plan to move forward and close the wiki in *one month* after the
sending of this email (this is September 16, 2018 aprox.). If you have
content that needs to be uploaded to the wiki, please do so.
I've setup a ticket at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201188> so
we can track its progress.
Of course, if you need more time I have no issues to wait. However the
wiki will eventually be closed as all other wikimania wikis.
Best regards, M.
I can not find what is urgent to close the wiki,
In addition there are report pages that are not completed
Let the volunteers do the work and we can close the wiki
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> From: DerHexer <derhexer(a)wikipedia.de>
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> Hi Marco,
> Isn't this a bit early? The conference happened less than a month ago,
> usually the wiki was closed maybe a year after the event. People need to
> add their presentations to the pages, videos needs to be edited and linked
> there,, lessons learned want to be shared, etc. It might be a good push now
> but get everything in place but in my humble opinion, two months after the
> conference is way too early, sorry.
> Von: MA <strigiwm(a)gmail.com>
> An: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Gesendet: 12:12 Donnerstag, 16.August 2018
> Betreff: [Wikimania-l] Closing wikimania2018wiki
> As it happens with all wikimania wikis upon completion of the event,
> the wikimania2018wiki is in the process of being closed. Closing means
> that the wiki and its contents will continue to be online and readable
> by all, but account creation and editting will be restricted.
> I plan to move forward and close the wiki in *one month* after the
> sending of this email (this is September 16, 2018 aprox.). If you have
> content that needs to be uploaded to the wiki, please do so.
> I've setup a ticket at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201188> so
> we can track its progress.
> Of course, if you need more time I have no issues to wait. However the
> wiki will eventually be closed as all other wikimania wikis.
> Best regards, M.
> Wikimania-l mailing list
In our movement we have a lot of different people, including people with a
Then it can happen that with events organised by the Wikimedia movement,
there are people that get sensory overloads. it basically means that the
input through the senses gets too much at some point. This can result in an
emotional outburst, an instant heavy headache/migraine attack, or in my
case I go (almost) completely blank.
It is really hard to complain how it is like to people who have no
experiences with it.
I think however that we need as inclusive movement to be more aware of the
huge amount of varieties of people and there needs. For that reason I like
to share a thread on Twitter with you how a user I know well has
experienced it herself.
Read at: https://twitter.com/dodocurieux/status/1029743772584865792
I decided to contribute to this thread, however not in order to elaborate
on my personal opinion on this specific case. This would be inappropriate,
as we do not have sufficient information about it and also out of respect
for the people involved.
Instead, I want to comment, because I feel strongly about the consequences
this discussion may have - not only on the perception of the friendly space
policy and its effectiveness, but also on people who may need to refer to
the policy in the future.
This past Wikimania was very much about the importance of representing all
people in our movement and about finding ways for them to have a voice, to
be heard – and to feel safe to contribute and participate.
One reliable way to silence people when they experience harassment as well
as keeping others from speaking out, is to have them experience how other,
non-involved people, would immediately have an opinion on what happened and
judge the case or the person in question. This is what has happened here.
It is furthermore, absolutely out of proportion to weigh ones personal
irritation about some members being potentially more aware and sensitive of
this topic, against a context in which harassment and violence is not the
exception, but everyday reality.
Policies and measures like codes of conduct etc. exist for a reason.
Invisible to many, harassment does happen, it happens a lot, it happens
also amongst communities with great, humanitarian goals. In the world most
of us live in, offensive or invasive behavior has no tangible consequences
for those who commit it, but severe effects on those who experience it.
According to the Fundamental Rights Agency, 75% of women in qualified
professions or top management jobs have been sexually harassed. UN Women
has confirmed that there is a big problem with underreporting when it comes
to these cases.
Efforts like the friendly space policies aim to contribute to establish a
societal climate where people feel safe and that makes all people aware,
that inappropriate behavior has consequences.
Publicly judging and ridiculing efforts to find a process, suitable to make
all people feel safe, heard, and, if necessary, taken seriously at events,
can set back efforts of creating such a process. Measures like friendly
space policies are not self-evident, they are an hard fought for
achievement. Seeing, how fast those efforts are being called into question,
is quite disheartening and worries me a lot.
I am very grateful to work for and with a movement that has agreed on
trying to make all people feel welcome and respected. I hope that we will
keep fostering this together.
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UK Wikimedians (or those with access to UK TV) who visited Wikimania
might like a two-part television programme, "The Penguins of Cape
Town", which airs on Channel 5 this Friday, and next Friday, 17 & 24
August, at 7pm.
Those of you involved in GLAM projects may be eligible to attend this:
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Date: 8 August 2018 at 11:00
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Since I didn't went to wikimania and other people were already making the
points I wanted to make I tried to stay out of the conversation, but now I
need to answer something.
***Men (add well-educated, straight, able-bodied, wealthy if you wish) from
whatever ethnic group is most prominent in the country they live in have a
different experience of life to everyone else.
Harassment, bullying and various other forms of discrimination are much
more frequent , even normal, for women, people from ethnic minorities, LGBT
people, and others who don't match that description.***
First of all, let's not forget that the incident that started all of this
happened to a white straight man from Europe, and so far the only people
who were "disqualified" from the conversation for their identity (and trus
suffered harassment for something they CAN'T Change) were white males. So
if we are going to town identity politics into this, I would say with the
basis of this conversation that they are MORE likely to suffer
discrimination not less.
Second, no. Every man (or woman) is an island. Each experience is
different. Telling someone that all white people thinks the same is like
saying <insert racist stereotype here> (I can give exemples but if I do
this thread will devolve into a discussion of the stereotype and we done
The best thing that come up of the suffragete and civil rights movements
are that we should listen to the ideas not the person who has them, and we
should uphold to that if equality is what we want.
PS. : Because I know people will say stuff about if, let's preempt all of
it: for those who don't know, I'm Latina and a woman, but that SHOULDN'T be
the reason why you listen to me.
On Jul 30, 2018 3:13 PM, "Chris Keating" <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Probably the best thing that can happen to this thread now is that it
dies off, but I did just want to respond to this point by Pine,
because it's really important:
> 1. How, exactly, are white males unqualified to discuss the Friendly
Space Policy because of their/our identity as white males?
Men (add well-educated, straight, able-bodied, wealthy if you wish)
from whatever ethnic group is most prominent in the country they live
in have a different experience of life to everyone else.
Harassment, bullying and various other forms of discrimination are
much more frequent , even normal, for women, people from ethnic
minorities, LGBT people, and others who don't match that description.
So a conversation mainly conducted by white men about something like a
Friendly Space Policy is mainly being conducted by people who do not
experience the issue that the Friendly Space Policy is designed to
address. Or if they do experience it, it's an unusual thing that's
easy to laugh off.
Therefore this kind of conversation is much more likely to conclude
that there isn't a real problem, or the policy isn't working, or other
things are more important (e.g. being REALLY TRANSPARENT ABOUT
EVERYTHING), or whatever has happened in a particular case isn't an
issue. Which, predictably enough, is *exactly* what has happened in
Wikimania-l mailing list
Though I’m not sure if it’d be right to take names here, but this is probably an opportunity to discuss about:
- if there is a need for consensus when a Wikimedia affiliate provides support to one person from another affiliate
- if an affiliate provides support if they share it on wiki for transparency or not
- Wikimania scholarship recipients generally create Learning Patterns and write reports. These are good practices in general but making it mandatory for the scholarship recipients brings out a really valuable pool of knowledge which otherwise might not be the case because of the post-Wikimania fatigue. There is a need for more clarity if non-Wikimania participants (individual/affiliate reps) who travel because of support from another affiliate should also produce the same
- If an affiliate decides to provide support, should they announce publicly (on regional mailman lists and meta/village pumps) if there is any conflict. If there was a rationale that the former used to identify certain individuals, should they share that as well?
I think discussing these above would be useful in general.
Bodhi, didn’t want to steal your thunder but I think some of the general points (above) can be discussed which in someway would be useful for all such future supports.
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> From: Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com>
> Date: July 27, 2018 at 12:32:20 PM GMT+5:30
> To: wikimediaindia-l <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania tour of Rahul Desmukh
> Reply-To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> WMIN chapter president Rahul Deshmukh attended Wikimania 2018 in Cape Town without being selected for any type of scholarship. My question is why was he sent to the conference depriving other community members from India who were in the waiting list.
> He spoke in the informal chairpersons' meetup for few minutes. The meeting doesn't require president of the organization's presence, and already there were 2 EC member of WMIN present, who could have attended the meeting.
> To me, this is utter misuse of power and abuse of donation money.
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