Hello,
I'm interested in meeting persons who are willing to share their story of
their world of Wikimedia. We plan making a video documentary out of it to
share with other Africans and raise their interest in the world of wiki.
I've talked to a couple of persons already but looking for more.
>From wikidata to Wikiversity, I'm willing to talk to all. It shouldn't take
more than 10 minutes of your time.
Please lemme know your coordinates if interested and I'll teleport myself
there asap.
Thanks
rexford |google.com/+Nkansahrexford| sent from smartphone
Fæ, 10/10/2014 16:44:
> [...] a WMF employee make community decisions for us (such as
> appointing the Jury [...]
I've not inspected the facts in detail, but as far as I could understand
this is NOT what happened, so it's a bit annoying to hear you repeat it
continuously. I added a summary to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_jury some days ago and I
encourage everyone to edit it (with references, where controversial).
I'm sure it will be easier to discuss productively once we've agreed
upon the essential facts.
Nemo
Psy might be giving a keynote speech at CHI 2015....
http://chi2015seoul.wordpress.com/
"One of the invitations has been sent to Psy, who made 2 billion view
record on his music video, Gangnam Style on YouTube. He has made many
speeches around the world including Harvard and Oxford University."
Will that please the crowd?
Gordo
Based on a prompt from Itzik, I checked the archives of wikimania-l
(which I was not subscribed to). There is a message from Stuart Prior
there with a very brief summary of background of jury members which I
was unaware of and it may have been intended as a response to my
question. Refer to
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2014-October/006418.html>.
For those that do subscribe to wikimania-l, please keep in mind that
most readers of wikimedia-l do not see your responses unless you post
here, and that posts from non-subscribers to wikimania-l get bounced.
Thanks,
Fae
On 10 October 2014 11:48, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question "how the
> current jury was elected and by who", is that the Wikimania jury is
> not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and
> presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment
> by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or
> volunteer-centric.
>
> We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been
> employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this
> question.
>
> It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied
> as referring to jury members as "second class citizens". Nobody apart
> from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement.
>
> Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept
> secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the
> balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how
> several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order
> to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance
> questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing
> demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled
> for future Wikimania events.
>
> It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see
> commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo.
>
> Fae
I do agree that it should be great to have a transparent way to elect the
jury, but people, let's at least take the word or the people who commented
here. The ones who come here and said "I do work for a wikimedia org, but
I'm in the jury as a volunteer". Why do not believe in then? Most of then
(the ones I know about) are long standing volunteers so it IS possible that
was because of that they were chosen. If the criteria were open would be
better and we wouldnt have that questions, yes. But let's try to keep civil
with the people who DID volunteer to be members of the jury.
_____
*Béria L. de Rodríguez*
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho.*
2014-10-10 7:48 GMT-03:00 Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com>:
> The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question "how the
> current jury was elected and by who", is that the Wikimania jury is
> not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and
> presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment
> by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or
> volunteer-centric.
>
> We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been
> employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this
> question.
>
> It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied
> as referring to jury members as "second class citizens". Nobody apart
> from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement.
>
> Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept
> secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the
> balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how
> several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order
> to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance
> questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing
> demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled
> for future Wikimania events.
>
> It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see
> commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo.
>
> Fae
>
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> It also makes me wonder how hard whoever "elected" the jury worked to find
> interested unpaid volunteers as opposed to employees who are part of the
> normal professional networks.
>
I might be wrong, but I didnt saw a mail with a call for volunteers to
compose the jury like they do every year. (I do might had missed though so
is better if Manuel or Ellie answers.)
_____
*Béria L. de Rodríguez*
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
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2014-09-29 11:13 GMT-03:00 Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com>:
> On 29 September 2014 14:45, Béria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > I also would like to know the answer to Itzik question:
> >
> > " Can you elaborate more on how the current jury was elected and by who?"
> >> > Richard Symonds
> >> > Stuart Prior
> >> > Claudia Garad
> >> > Esteban Zarate
> >> > Daniel Bryant
> >> > Finne Boonen
> >> > Ellie Young
>
> Could someone point to a profile of the jury members? It is incredibly
> hard to see who has been an employee of the WMF or Chapters unless you
> happen to know people personally. However, I believe I am correct in
> saying that only the minority of the jury has never been a paid
> employee, which may not be the best thing for a conference aimed at
> unpaid volunteers.
>
> It also makes me wonder how hard whoever "elected" the jury worked to
> find interested unpaid volunteers as opposed to employees who are part
> of the normal professional networks.
>
> Fae
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