Hi! Thanks for answering several question. As far as I can see, the question by Aude where to find the correct busses remains open. As I got the same question by a German scholar, I'd be happy forward that information. Cheers, Martin 2016-06-09 18:08 GMT+02:00 aude <aude.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>: -- Martin Rulsch Team Ideenförderung Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.

I'm talking about the direct shuttles from the airports to Esino Lario. Martin 2016-06-15 12:42 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>: -- Martin Rulsch Team Ideenförderung Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.

yes. You get get a ticket for the remaining seats for the airport busses (from the airports to Esino on June 21st and June 23rd and from Esino to the airports and to Milan on Monday une 27th). The eventbrite is open [1]. iolanda [1] https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikimania-2016-airport-transfers-tickets-22670…

On Jun 15, 2016 20:14, "DaB." <wp(a)dabpunkt.eu> wrote: The airport bus page now has a lot more of these details I am no longer concerned that people will have trouble to find the bus at the airport Katie

Andrew, maybe "Date+Time" is when Wikimania takes places (in Esino Lario)? inkl. PreConference (Hackathon); from Tuesday, *June 21, 2016* at *9:00 AM* till Monday, June 27, 2016 at 11:30 PM? Your ticket is Thursday, *June 23, 2016 at 11 AM* from Malpensa to Esino (hope 11 am is departure of the bus at MXP). Could that be? Anika <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virenfrei. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> 2016-06-16 7:09 GMT+02:00 Andrew Lih &lt;andrew(a)andrewlih.com&gt;om>:

Yes, there is more information on the airport shuttle pages but still not how to get to them. I guess it's easy to add that very helpful information. That'd be much appreciated. :-) Cheers, Martin 2016-06-16 5:05 GMT+02:00 aude &lt;aude.wiki(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: -- Martin Rulsch Team Ideenförderung Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.

Yes, a bit, though not all people will arrive at these dates and times. Thanks! Cheers, Martin 2016-06-16 11:17 GMT+02:00 Ciell Wikipedia &lt;ciell.wikipedia(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: -- Martin Rulsch Team Ideenförderung Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.

Thanks indeed. The schedule of the buses from Varenna to Esino Lario (going towards Wikimania) is missing, it seems. Could that be added too? I suspect I will be arriving by ferry to Varenna. Best, Lodewijk 2016-06-09 18:49 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk&gt;uk>:

Ah, I think I understand the table now. I understood the first table to be a train table somehow - sorry for the confusion! So buses will only be once every 1,5 hour/2 hour, and take 40 minutes from Varenna to Esino Lario? Lets hope not to miss it then! :) Lodewijk 2016-06-09 20:30 GMT+02:00 Iolanda Pensa &lt;iolanda(a)pensa.it&gt;it>:

Also, the previous Eventbrite link to book tickets is password protected, and it asks to “Contact organizer.” Thanks. -Andrew -Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism, American University Email: andrew(a)andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Iolanda Pensa &lt;iolanda(a)pensa.it&gt; wrote:

The busses are meant for people who requested transport (eventbrite, scholarships and Wikimedia Foundation staff). If you did not requested direct transport, you can still buy a seat. we will post the remaining available seats on eventbrite you can buy (by Monday - i'll send you a notification here). When there is written taxi, it is because we have less than 4 requests. I thought this info was already available. I have posted it here https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Journey/Varenna_Esino_busses @Andrew can you please post the info also in facebook? Thanks Iolanda -- Iolanda Pensa iPhone

For the record, I’d be interested in the Thursday morning 11am service from Malpensa to Esino. I didn’t know where to sign up for these rides. -Andrew -Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism, American University Email: andrew(a)andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Iolanda Pensa &lt;iolanda(a)pensa.it&gt; wrote:

Sorry to pile on questions, here - is there somewhere we need to sign up for each individual bus, or will it be enough to just show the Eventbrite "ticket" when we are there? There is only one bus from Linate on the 21st, so I'm a little worried I'll not actually get on it. Joe On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 at 07:11 Filip Maljkovic &lt;dungodung(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

I guess a lot of people who arrive early will be doing that. Will the team also send an email to all participants that for the bus from Varenna to Esino Lario, they need to book in advance (if I understood that well). That might very well be the bottle neck in the journey - the rest looks fine indeed with alternative options. Best, Lodewijk 2016-06-10 17:30 GMT+02:00 Ellie Young &lt;eyoung(a)wikimedia.org&gt;rg>:

dear all to clarify, there are two kind of busses 1. busses from the airports to Esino (and viceversa). All people with a WMF scholarship, all WMF staff and all people who bought their airport transport have a seat on the busses. we made this timetable to accommodate the arrivals https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Journey/Airport_busses Marta is preparing with Stuart Prior (who has the access) a registration system on eventbrite to buy the remaining seats. It will be available in a short time (meanwhile please have a look at the available times) We might add another bus on Monday if needed to make sure everyone can get home. Please note that we are managing as volunteers this service for your comfort, it is very very complicated and busses do not bloom in the grass but need to be reserved, organized and they cost 500 euro each - last minute services is impossible. We do our best to meet you needs but we will not be able to accommodate everyone’s preference. Please also consider to take and pay a taxi or urber if you have specific requests in particular from the airports to Esino. 2. busses from Varenna to Esino Lario (and viceversa) We should have the definitive contract today and this is the expected schedule https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Journey/Varenna_Esino_busses We are putting as many busses as possible on the schedule but there are limits due to the street (we are saturating it but we can not block it) and there are limits due to the schedule bus drivers can do. We are really sorry that you might have to wait for your bus, but you can reserve your seat on the next available bus once you arrive in Varenna and Varenna is indeed really beautiful: you can leave the luggage at the station and enjoy the place during the waiting time. You do not need to reserve on eventbrite your ticket for Varenna Esino but you be able to get it once you are in Varenna or in Esino. Please note that you can get or reserve your return ticket in Varenna or Esino; it is a good idea to get it immediately or to think about it as soon as you can. hope this clarifies how we set the busses. I am sorry that it takes time to confirm the schedule and if anyone wants to help in taking the reservations is more than welcome. I have to admit that no one is really queueing to get the job :) iolanda

Hi Andy, I added that statement to the busses page, based on an earlier email from Iolanda where she indeed stated that reservations were required. I understand now that reservations still are required, but can only be made once in Varenna - perhaps that explains the ambiguity? But I have to admit, it isn't entirely clear to me either... Lodewijk 2016-06-13 14:24 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk&gt;uk>:

On 13 June 2016 at 12:11, Iolanda Pensa &lt;iolanda(a)pensa.it&gt; wrote: P.S. It is not clear whether "All people with a WMF scholarship" includes people (like me) with a partial scholarship. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

On 13 June 2016 at 18:24, Ellie Young &lt;eyoung(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: So not "All people with a WMF scholarship", as was stated by Iolanda just seven hours ago? I'm sure it is now clear why some of us are increasingly concerned about the current situation. But in case it is not, I also received an email from you three hours ago, saying: Hello WMF Full and Partial Scholarship Recipients, Please note the following: [...] Travel to and from Esino Lario from Linate and Malpensa airports: If you are arriving on June 21 or 23 from these airports, you have a pre-paid, reserved seat on the direct shuttle buses departing from there on those dates. (You also have the same if you are returning back to those airports on June 27 from Esino Lario.) Please see the following link for those schedules: To emphasise, that's "WMF Full and Partial Scholarship Recipients" in your first mail, as opposed to "All WMF Full Scholarship recipients" in your latest. As a partial scholarship recipient, I am utterly confused. I'm not able to parse parts of the above, and I'm not clear what is meant by "the people who purchased early on tickets". Tickets for buses, or tickets for Wikimania? How early? How can we tell if that applies to us? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

"On 13 June 2016 at 19:51, Ellie Young &lt;eyoung(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: Thank you. I understand that. But we have been told that buses would be provided, and my concern is - partly - with lack of clarity about how, and when, to book for them, or whether the booking had been made already. (I have, after all, received two emails today telling me, wrongly it seems, that I already have a seat...) Can you explain why your "Hello WMF Full and Partial Scholarship Recipients" mail, which I quoted, said I have "a pre-paid, reserved seat on the direct shuttle buses"? Will you now send a correction to all recipients, as some may not be reading this list? I don't believe I was aware of that offer, until the 6th June, when I posted about it to this list; and again on 9th June (my posts being unanswered until today). I have been asking about that since the 6th June (see above) and more than once today. the responses have, as already explained, been contradictory. I certainly do not "want to wait" any longer - as I said earlier, I need to have this tied up soon. Furthermore, I have only seen references to booking /return/ tickets. My need is, as stated previously, only in one direction, on the 27th. Will that be possible? I'm not finding it straightforward; see my comments made today about lack of clarity regarding buses from Varenna-Esino-Perledo station to Esino Lario (and the reverse), and the claim that prior booking for these is required. This also remains unresolved. -- Andy Mabbett