Re: [Wikimania-l] Accommodation - address for immigration purposes and luggage lost

Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 16:46, Tomasz Ganicz &lt;polimerek(a)gmail.com&gt; ha scritto: There is small risk with putting false address - as immigration officers sometimes requires confirmation of booking of accommodation. I guess - maybe not for reach looking people from reach countries - but if you claim staying in 4 star hotel, and looking poor - it is is automatically suspicious... 2016-06-13 16:37 GMT+02:00 Takashi OTA &lt;supertakot+wikimania(a)gmail.com <mailto:supertakot+wikimania@gmail.com>>: Hi Risker (and all), This is not official but practical advice for attendees. Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario <https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario> The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC) (according to http://www.rosadellealpi.it/ <http://www.rosadellealpi.it/>) You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p --Takashi Ota [[U:Takot]] 2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker &lt;risker.wp(a)gmail.com <mailto:risker.wp@gmail.com>>: Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required. Risker/Anne On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa &lt;iolanda(a)pensa.it <mailto:iolanda@pensa.it>> wrote: dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival. Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation. I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell &lt;hjmwiki(a)gmail.com <mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com>> ha scritto: Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there. Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying? Thanks, Harry Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk <mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha &lt;mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com <mailto:mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com>> wrote: A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> Hi Risker (and all), This is not official but practical advice for attendees. Rosa delle Alpi is one of the hotels listed in the accomodation page. https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario <https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation/Esino_Lario> The address is: Via Adamello, 36 23825 ESINO LARIO (LC) You might not stay at Rosa delle Alpi, but the immigration officers won't care about it :-p 2016年6月13日(月) 21:54 Risker &lt;risker.wp(a)gmail.com <mailto:risker.wp@gmail.com>>: Iolanda, for those of us traveling from outside of Europe, we will normally have to provide a proper destination address as part of our customs and immigration process. "Esino Lario" won't normally be enough; in fact, it's my experience that at least half the time when traveling to Europe, I have had to show my reservation confirmation. We also need our destination address to include it in our luggage so that if it is misdirected, there is still some chance that it might find us before the conference is over. Having had my luggage go missing on more than one transatlantic flight - knowing that my destination address is well identified in association with my luggage is a Big Deal. Again, just "Esino Lario" isn't going to cut it. An actual address is required. Risker/Anne On 13 June 2016 at 08:24, Iolanda Pensa &lt;iolanda(a)pensa.it <mailto:iolanda@pensa.it>> wrote: dear all Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario. Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds. You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got. Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and arrival. Pleonastic, but If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t have accommodation in Esino Lario. If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport. Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite confirmation. I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great adventure. iolanda Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell &lt;hjmwiki(a)gmail.com <mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com>> ha scritto: Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time off work and spent our own money to get there. Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have some information on where we're staying? Thanks, Harry Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk <mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha &lt;mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com <mailto:mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com>> wrote: A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> -- Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek <http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek> http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ <http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l