Could we get an update on when we're likely to get a result? I have potential suppliers wanting to know if we're going to go ahead with the order or not - I told them I would know if the conference was going ahead on the 16th and they are now chasing me up! I would like to be able to tell something more than "soon".
I don't blame the Jury for needing extra time, the bids are very close and I don't envy their decision, but some idea of how much extra time they need would be helpful. Thanks!
Hi Thomas and all, My apologies, I meant to send an email to everyone yesterday.
The jury met over the weekend after lots of online discussion and agreed that another week would be necessary to reach consensus and develop feedback for the bids. So we are hoping to be done by the end of this coming weekend, April 26.
My apologies for the delay, I know everyone is quite anxious. In retrospect the timetable should have been longer to begin with -- it always takes a while to talk about the bids, and to fit deliberations around the schedule of eight busy people! For next year whoever moderates the jury should add an extra two weeks to deliberations, whether we think we need it or not :)
That said, the jury is not at consensus yet, so while everyone is going to try their best to spend lots of time working on it this week, it might take longer.
-- phoebe
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
Could we get an update on when we're likely to get a result? I have potential suppliers wanting to know if we're going to go ahead with the order or not - I told them I would know if the conference was going ahead on the 16th and they are now chasing me up! I would like to be able to tell something more than "soon".
I don't blame the Jury for needing extra time, the bids are very close and I don't envy their decision, but some idea of how much extra time they need would be helpful. Thanks!
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2009/4/21 phoebe ayers brassratgirl@gmail.com:
Hi Thomas and all, My apologies, I meant to send an email to everyone yesterday.
The jury met over the weekend after lots of online discussion and agreed that another week would be necessary to reach consensus and develop feedback for the bids. So we are hoping to be done by the end of this coming weekend, April 26.
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th? Our AGM is that afternoon and it would be really good to know if we've won the bid or not so we can discuss what happens next if we have.
2009/4/21 Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com:
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th?
I don't know if and how many people from North or South America are involved in this, but noon BST (which I assume is what you mean, "midday" is vague and Britain is in UTC+1 right now due to DST) is really very early there :D (4 AM Pacific, 7 AM Eastern), so that might be a bit of a problem.
Roan Kattouw (Catrope)
2009/4/21 Roan Kattouw roan.kattouw@gmail.com:
2009/4/21 Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com:
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th?
I don't know if and how many people from North or South America are involved in this, but noon BST (which I assume is what you mean, "midday" is vague and Britain is in UTC+1 right now due to DST) is really very early there :D (4 AM Pacific, 7 AM Eastern), so that might be a bit of a problem.
I meant noon UTC (I consider "noon" and "midday" to be synonymous). People will start arriving for the AGM at 1pm BST, I translated that to UTC for the benefit of people not familiar with the UK's DST rules. Looking at the Jury list, it seems that the majority are not from North or South America. It looks like 3 people in Europe, 3 in America and one that I think is in Egypt. Depending on what the final hurdle they have to get over is, it might well be possible to finish on Sunday morning, UTC (If not, then so be it.)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.kattouw@gmail.comwrote:
2009/4/21 Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com:
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th?
I don't know if and how many people from North or South America are involved in this, but noon BST (which I assume is what you mean, "midday" is vague and Britain is in UTC+1 right now due to DST) is really very early there :D (4 AM Pacific, 7 AM Eastern), so that might be a bit of a problem.
Roan Kattouw (Catrope)
I think he meant *by* midday, not necessary *at* midday.
Thomas Dalton pisze:
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th? Our AGM is that afternoon and it would be really good to know if we've won the bid or not so we can discuss what happens next if we have.
Hmm, how about we do not press the jury too hard, or not at all, in order to help them make the right decision? We also would love not to wake all the journalists up at the time when they ought to be sound asleep, but hey...
Wojtek / Wpedzich (Gdańsk team)
The journalists are already awake. ;-)
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Thomas Dalton pisze:
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th? Our AGM is that afternoon and it would be really good to know if we've won the bid or not so we can discuss what happens next if we have.
Hmm, how about we do not press the jury too hard, or not at all, in order to help them make the right decision? We also would love not to wake all the journalists up at the time when they ought to be sound asleep, but hey...
Wojtek / Wpedzich (Gdańsk team)
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talking about journalists... it might be good to consider telling the local teams (or at least the winning team) some time in advance before making the decision public, to enable them to prepare a proper (joint) press release from the chapter and/or the wmf. I know this is not very ideal towards the community, but this might be an advantage to catch attention, and to reach out that way.
best, lodewijk
2009/4/21 Wojciech Pędzich wpedzich@wp.pl
Thomas Dalton pisze:
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th? Our AGM is that afternoon and it would be really good to know if we've won the bid or not so we can discuss what happens next if we have.
Hmm, how about we do not press the jury too hard, or not at all, in order to help them make the right decision? We also would love not to wake all the journalists up at the time when they ought to be sound asleep, but hey...
Wojtek / Wpedzich (Gdańsk team)
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effe iets anders pisze:
talking about journalists... it might be good to consider telling the local teams (or at least the winning team) some time in advance before making the decision public, to enable them to prepare a proper (joint) press release from the chapter and/or the wmf. I know this is not very ideal towards the community, but this might be an advantage to catch attention, and to reach out that way.
best, lodewijk
Against. That'd mean there are some priviledged people who should know (how will you define them?) and "the others". I also don't think that whoever gets word of the results will be able to keep his keyboard shut for long enough. Besides, it's the WMF who's organising the conference with the aid of the local team and local chapters (if available) the way I understand it. Don't shoot for PR, just try to make the best bid you can so that the conference runs smoothly, not with glamour.
Wojtek
2009/4/21 Wojciech Pędzich wpedzich@wp.pl:
effe iets anders pisze:
talking about journalists... it might be good to consider telling the local teams (or at least the winning team) some time in advance before making the decision public, to enable them to prepare a proper (joint) press release from the chapter and/or the wmf. I know this is not very ideal towards the community, but this might be an advantage to catch attention, and to reach out that way.
best, lodewijk
Against. That'd mean there are some priviledged people who should know (how will you define them?) and "the others". I also don't think that whoever gets word of the results will be able to keep his keyboard shut for long enough. Besides, it's the WMF who's organising the conference with the aid of the local team and local chapters (if available) the way I understand it. Don't shoot for PR, just try to make the best bid you can so that the conference runs smoothly, not with glamour.
I'm against as well, I don't think it's practical. If the bids were made by chapters, rather than "local teams" (which are really just informal groups of people that aren't particularly well defined), then it might be possible, but that isn't the case. Perhaps in the future we'll be able to make it a requirement that bids are made by chapters, and then we could consider things like this, but I'm not sure chapters are widespread enough for that yet. Give it a couple of years.
I'm against as well, I don't think it's practical. If the bids were made by chapters, rather than "local teams" (which are really just informal groups of people that aren't particularly well defined), then it might be possible, but that isn't the case. Perhaps in the future we'll be able to make it a requirement that bids are made by chapters, and then we could consider things like this, but I'm not sure chapters are widespread enough for that yet. Give it a couple of years.
This year we have three bids, three countries and three chapters. There is no time like the present to try it out.
2009/4/21 Joseph Seddon josephseddon@googlemail.com:
I'm against as well, I don't think it's practical. If the bids were made by chapters, rather than "local teams" (which are really just informal groups of people that aren't particularly well defined), then it might be possible, but that isn't the case. Perhaps in the future we'll be able to make it a requirement that bids are made by chapters, and then we could consider things like this, but I'm not sure chapters are widespread enough for that yet. Give it a couple of years.
This year we have three bids, three countries and three chapters. There is no time like the present to try it out.
Yes, but the bids aren't actually made by the chapters. As you well know, the leader of the UK bid isn't even a member of the UK chapter (yet)!
2009/4/21 Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com:
Yes, but the bids aren't actually made by the chapters. As you well know, the leader of the UK bid isn't even a member of the UK chapter (yet)!
Not officially, no. But in practice, the chapters support the bids and chapter members are active in the bids. Also, while the local team may not be a well-defined group, the core team is. They could cooperate with the chapter and the WMF in writing a joint press release.
Roan Kattouw (Catrope)
Joseph Seddon pisze:
I'm against as well, I don't think it's practical. If the bids were made by chapters, rather than "local teams" (which are really just informal groups of people that aren't particularly well defined), then it might be possible, but that isn't the case. Perhaps in the future we'll be able to make it a requirement that bids are made by chapters, and then we could consider things like this, but I'm not sure chapters are widespread enough for that yet. Give it a couple of years.This year we have three bids, three countries and three chapters. There is no time like the present to try it out.
Perhaps a decision right now would be too rash, it's a matter of like 4-5 days - do you think we could carry this over to the next opportune situation and leave ourselves (or the jurors at least) some leetime to consider such an option?
Wojtek
Maybe Jay could give his opinion as well, as the PR person from the WMF (in cc)
Lodewijk
2009/4/21 Joseph Seddon josephseddon@googlemail.com
Don't shoot for PR, just try to make the best bid you
can so that the conference runs smoothly, not with glamour.
Its to do with having a high degree of professionalism.
Seddon
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I know that announcement will be quite important for the winning bid team - but it's just a matter of course to manage that. It would be good for them to have some notice, perhaps a day or two, to prep a basic news release highlighting the news.
I don't think there's a huge risk of the news getting out. Media would really need direction from the winning committee to get the full story. So generally it would be better to be ready and confident with the news/announcement.
I don't believe WMF formally announced the winner of the upcoming year's WMania last year, but it might be a good way for us to help draw attention globally to Wikimania in more general terms... perhaps in the same big press release we could announce the 2010 location and then hopefully we'll have media registration for Buenos Aires ready? Or if we haven't got anything new to report for BA, then we could just have a few quotes from both teams talking about Wikimania.
Thanks!
WMF did not send out a formal announcement, no, though wasn't there some sort of press release later? The past couple of years I have simply sent an email to wikimania-l and foundation-l, which gets the word out to most of the interested community members.
I don't think telling the community precludes sending a more formal press release later from either the winning chapter and/or the Foundation. Effe is right, that it's a good chance to build excitement locally, but I see one as an 'internal' announcement (even though it's public) and the other as an 'external' announcement (really making sure media sees it).
But whatever the community wants me to do is fine :) Just let me know. -- phoebe
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
I know that announcement will be quite important for the winning bid team - but it's just a matter of course to manage that. It would be good for them to have some notice, perhaps a day or two, to prep a basic news release highlighting the news. I don't think there's a huge risk of the news getting out. Media would really need direction from the winning committee to get the full story. So generally it would be better to be ready and confident with the news/announcement.
I don't believe WMF formally announced the winner of the upcoming year's WMania last year, but it might be a good way for us to help draw attention globally to Wikimania in more general terms... perhaps in the same big press release we could announce the 2010 location and then hopefully we'll have media registration for Buenos Aires ready? Or if we haven't got anything new to report for BA, then we could just have a few quotes from both teams talking about Wikimania.
Thanks!
-- Jay Walsh Head of Communications WikimediaFoundation.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 609
On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:27 PM, effe iets anders wrote:
Maybe Jay could give his opinion as well, as the PR person from the WMF (in cc)
Lodewijk
2009/4/21 Joseph Seddon josephseddon@googlemail.com
Don't shoot for PR, just try to make the best bid you
can so that the conference runs smoothly, not with glamour.
Its to do with having a high degree of professionalism.
Seddon
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM, phoebe ayers brassratgirl@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think telling the community precludes sending a more formal press release later from either the winning chapter and/or the Foundation. Effe is right, that it's a good chance to build excitement locally, but I see one as an 'internal' announcement (even though it's public) and the other as an 'external' announcement (really making sure media sees it).
That's what it seems like to me too. Telling wikimania-l may seem like "public", but it's not really. I don't think we have any journalists who actually search the archives of this list for stories. :-)
2009/4/21 phoebe ayers brassratgirl@gmail.com
WMF did not send out a formal announcement, no, though wasn't there some sort of press release later? The past couple of years I have simply sent an email to wikimania-l and foundation-l, which gets the word out to most of the interested community members.
I know, that is why I sent the suggestion :)
I don't think telling the community precludes sending a more formal press release later from either the winning chapter and/or the Foundation. Effe is right, that it's a good chance to build excitement locally, but I see one as an 'internal' announcement (even though it's public) and the other as an 'external' announcement (really making sure media sees it).
I think a press release would be better if it brought something really new, since then the value to media is higher. Then you can play the media, and make sure also the ones that are paying attention get the information you want them to get. Two times half a story make less chance to the paper then one good one.
But whatever the community wants me to do is fine :) Just let me know. -- phoebe
Not sure if we have enough time to arrange a poll. Perhaps you could delay the result for that a little more? ;-)
Lodewijk
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
I know that announcement will be quite important for the winning bid team
- but it's just a matter of course to manage that. It would be good for
them to have some notice, perhaps a day or two, to prep a basic news release highlighting the news. I don't think there's a huge risk of the news getting out. Media would really need direction from the winning committee to get the full story. So generally it would be better to be ready and confident with the news/announcement.
I don't believe WMF formally announced the winner of the upcoming year's WMania last year, but it might be a good way for us to help draw attention globally to Wikimania in more general terms... perhaps in the same big press release we could announce the 2010 location and then hopefully we'll have media registration for Buenos Aires ready? Or if we haven't got anything new to report for BA, then we could just have a few quotes from both teams talking about Wikimania.
Thanks!
-- Jay Walsh Head of Communications WikimediaFoundation.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 609
On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:27 PM, effe iets anders wrote:
Maybe Jay could give his opinion as well, as the PR person from the WMF (in cc)
Lodewijk
2009/4/21 Joseph Seddon josephseddon@googlemail.com
Don't shoot for PR, just try to make the best bid you
can so that the conference runs smoothly, not with glamour.
Its to do with having a high degree of professionalism.
Seddon
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
I don't believe WMF formally announced the winner of the upcoming year's WMania last year,
Kinda. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimania_2008 However, I think this was more because we were hosting it *with* BA (the Egyptian one ;-)) and they weren't just the conference venue.
but it might be a good way for us to help draw attention globally to Wikimania in more general terms... perhaps in the same big press release we could announce the 2010 location and then hopefully we'll have media registration for Buenos Aires ready?
That sounds like a good idea.
I don't consider it a privilige to know it before, sorry :) There are /always/ people who know it first (the jury itself for one). I see it merely as an opportunity to do a good press release.
I disagree with you that PR is not important. Wikimania is a great opportunity to wake some people up for free licenses and what Wikimedia is all about, and I think we should not waste that, no matter who is officially the organizer.
Besides that, the local team is in all three cases (as I understand it) made up by chapter people who could use this release perhaps for promoting the chapter in their own country and the principles the chapter is enthousiastic about. The WMF is not able to tailor make a press release for thelocal press, to which this will be the most exciting news.
As I said, it is not ideal, but I believe that the better publicity might be worth the disadvantages of giving a few people a head start regarding information.
Best regards,
Lodewijk
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effe iets anders pisze:
talking about journalists... it might be good to consider telling the local teams (or at least the winning team) some time in advance before making the decision public, to enable them to prepare a proper (joint) press release from the chapter and/or the wmf. I know this is not very ideal towards the community, but this might be an advantage to catch attention, and to reach out that way.
best, lodewijk
Against. That'd mean there are some priviledged people who should know (how will you define them?) and "the others". I also don't think that whoever gets word of the results will be able to keep his keyboard shut for long enough. Besides, it's the WMF who's organising the conference with the aid of the local team and local chapters (if available) the way I understand it. Don't shoot for PR, just try to make the best bid you can so that the conference runs smoothly, not with glamour.
Wojtek
W dniu 21 kwietnia 2009 22:05 użytkownik effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com napisał:
talking about journalists... it might be good to consider telling the local teams (or at least the winning team) some time in advance before making the decision public, to enable them to prepare a proper (joint) press release from the chapter and/or the wmf. I know this is not very ideal towards the community, but this might be an advantage to catch attention, and to reach out that way.
best, lodewijk
Yes. I suggest to tell all the teams representatives the final decission before it will be officially announced. Maybe it is even more important for those two who won't be happy to have Wikimania in 2010, as there might be plenty of unnecesary frustration after being informed about it via press.
2009/4/21 Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com:
Yes. I suggest to tell all the teams representatives the final decission before it will be officially announced. Maybe it is even more important for those two who won't be happy to have Wikimania in 2010, as there might be plenty of unnecesary frustration after being informed about it via press.
That would impressive work by the press to hear about the result and contact the local team/chapter before they were able to check their email. I agree, it wouldn't be a very nice way to find out if it did happen, though.
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/4/21 Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com:
Yes. I suggest to tell all the teams representatives the final decission before it will be officially announced. Maybe it is even more important for those two who won't be happy to have Wikimania in 2010, as there might be plenty of unnecesary frustration after being informed about it via press.
That would impressive work by the press to hear about the result and contact the local team/chapter before they were able to check their email. I agree, it wouldn't be a very nice way to find out if it did happen, though.
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Well, I know that when the Brisbane bid last time around was struck without first being informed, I received plenty of distressed mobile calls from our bidding partners before I happened to log on and check my email. Needless to say, I was pretty annoyed at being put on the spot by the bid committee like that.
Cheers, Craig
Prehaps to avoid similar things happening in the future, an idea of giving 24-48 hours notice should be given to bids directly to put things in order before making things official. Not sure it would be put in place but an idea to consider.
Seddon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Craig Franklin craig@halo-17.net wrote:
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/4/21 Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com:
Yes. I suggest to tell all the teams representatives the final decission before it will be officially announced. Maybe it is even more important for those two who won't be happy to have Wikimania in 2010, as there might be plenty of unnecesary frustration after being informed about it via press.
That would impressive work by the press to hear about the result and contact the local team/chapter before they were able to check their email. I agree, it wouldn't be a very nice way to find out if it did happen, though.
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Well, I know that when the Brisbane bid last time around was struck without first being informed, I received plenty of distressed mobile calls from our bidding partners before I happened to log on and check my email. Needless to say, I was pretty annoyed at being put on the spot by the bid committee like that.
Cheers, Craig
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Folks, there are only two possible outcomes for each bid. If you want to be prepared in advance with a press release tailored to the outcome, just start writing two now. When you get the results, you'll know which one to use. That way, you can even develop the releases on your chapter wiki.
Nathan
guidance from the foundation would be needed. Though the chapter are relatively autonamous, the conference is a foundation event with thier name on it.
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Nathan nawrich@gmail.com wrote:
Folks, there are only two possible outcomes for each bid. If you want to be prepared in advance with a press release tailored to the outcome, just start writing two now. When you get the results, you'll know which one to use. That way, you can even develop the releases on your chapter wiki.
Nathan
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2009/4/22 Joseph Seddon josephseddon@googlemail.com:
guidance from the foundation would be needed. Though the chapter are relatively autonamous, the conference is a foundation event with thier name on it.
I agree. Any press release announcing Wikimania should be a joint one with the Foundation. It is a Foundation event (or, at least, a joint event - what exact role the chapter of the winning country will have is probably still open for negotiation).
Just so you guys know, if the jury can't come to a decision, we are having it in Frankfurt at the Haus der Jugend :)
-- phoebe
2009/4/21 Wojciech Pędzich wpedzich@wp.pl
Thomas Dalton pisze:
Thanks! If at all possible, could you try and do the UK a massive favour and get the result out before midday (UTC) on the 26th? Our AGM is that afternoon and it would be really good to know if we've won the bid or not so we can discuss what happens next if we have.
Hmm, how about we do not press the jury too hard, or not at all, in order to help them make the right decision?
2009/4/21 phoebe ayers brassratgirl@gmail.com:
Just so you guys know, if the jury can't come to a decision, we are having it in Frankfurt at the Haus der Jugend :)
They can only seat 400 [1]. Try the WMDE office in Berlin - that could fit everyone easily!
1. http://www.jugendherberge-frankfurt.de/index.php?id=16&L=1
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:22 AM, phoebe ayers brassratgirl@gmail.com wrote:
The jury met over the weekend after lots of online discussion and agreed that another week would be necessary to reach consensus and develop feedback for the bids. So we are hoping to be done by the end of this coming weekend, April 26.
Friendly reminder: Is there an update available on this?
-- Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com
El 4/27/09 11:11 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:22 AM, phoebe ayersbrassratgirl@gmail.com wrote:
The jury met over the weekend after lots of online discussion and agreed that another week would be necessary to reach consensus and develop feedback for the bids. So we are hoping to be done by the end of this coming weekend, April 26.
Friendly reminder: Is there an update available on this?
*poke poke*
The natives are getting restless. :)
-- brion
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
El 4/27/09 11:11 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:22 AM, phoebe ayersbrassratgirl@gmail.com wrote:
The jury met over the weekend after lots of online discussion and agreed that another week would be necessary to reach consensus and develop feedback for the bids. So we are hoping to be done by the end of this coming weekend, April 26.
Friendly reminder: Is there an update available on this?
*poke poke*
The natives are getting restless. :)
Just disable Frank's and Cary's office internet access until they forced the jury into finding a solution... Or write a line of code for them that picks a random number from [1;3]...
Michael
Is there some alternative method of selecting a location if the committee is unable to come to a decision? Either allowing an up or down majority vote in the committee, or something else?
Nathan
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
El 4/27/09 11:11 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:22 AM, phoebe ayersbrassratgirl@gmail.com wrote:
The jury met over the weekend after lots of online discussion and agreed that another week would be necessary to reach consensus and develop feedback for the bids. So we are hoping to be done by the end of this coming weekend, April 26.
Friendly reminder: Is there an update available on this?
*poke poke*
The natives are getting restless. :)
Just disable Frank's and Cary's office internet access until they forced the jury into finding a solution... Or write a line of code for them that picks a random number from [1;3]...
Michael
Don't blame me! I am not the boss of them!
Cary
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Cary Bass cary@wikimedia.org wrote:
Michael Bimmler a écrit :
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
El 5/6/09 10:33 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
Oh and, congrats for the WMF's multlingualism (We Support Our Staff's Second Languages) approach, nice :-) (If that is what it is)
El 5/6/09 10:47 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Cary Basscary@wikimedia.org wrote:
Michael Bimmler a écrit :
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Brion Vibberbrion@wikimedia.org wrote:
El 5/6/09 10:33 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
Oh and, congrats for the WMF's multlingualism (We Support Our Staff's Second Languages) approach, nice :-) (If that is what it is)
Practicing my espanish for Buenos Aires. :D
-- brion
El 5/6/09 10:33 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Brion Vibberbrion@wikimedia.org wrote:
El 4/27/09 11:11 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:22 AM, phoebe ayersbrassratgirl@gmail.com wrote:
The jury met over the weekend after lots of online discussion and agreed that another week would be necessary to reach consensus and develop feedback for the bids. So we are hoping to be done by the end of this coming weekend, April 26.
Friendly reminder: Is there an update available on this?
*poke poke*
The natives are getting restless. :)
Just disable Frank's and Cary's office internet access until they forced the jury into finding a solution... Or write a line of code for them that picks a random number from [1;3]...
Well, my understanding is that a decision has been made but they're still working on the public announcement...
-- brion
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well, my understanding is that a decision has been made but they're still working on the public announcement...
-- brion
Sounds like they decided to move it to Antarctica and are now trying to figure out how to sell that to the community :-)
Michael
El 5/6/09 10:44 PM, Michael Bimmler escribió:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Brion Vibberbrion@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well, my understanding is that a decision has been made but they're still working on the public announcement...
-- brion
Sounds like they decided to move it to Antarctica and are now trying to figure out how to sell that to the community :-)
We're going to have it in the southern hemisphere until we've balanced out all the northern hemisphere ones we've already had?
-- brion
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
Well, my understanding is that a decision has been made but they're still working on the public announcement...
-- brion
Sounds like they decided to move it to Antarctica and are now trying to figure out how to sell that to the community :-)
Michael! you are such a good guesser! But Brion is right, we have to balance it between Antarctica and the North pole. Otherwise we will not get proper geographic diversity.
Re: the jury - per the bidders request, we notified the bid committees before making a public announcement. Look for a note later/tomorrow. Please don't lynch me/the selection committee/Cary in the meantime :)
-- Phoebe
I'm pretty sure the swine flu had something to do with it too.
2009/5/6 phoebe ayers brassratgirl@gmail.com
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Well, my understanding is that a decision has been made but they're still working on the public announcement...
-- brion
Sounds like they decided to move it to Antarctica and are now trying to figure out how to sell that to the community :-)
Michael! you are such a good guesser! But Brion is right, we have to balance it between Antarctica and the North pole. Otherwise we will not get proper geographic diversity.
Re: the jury - per the bidders request, we notified the bid committees before making a public announcement. Look for a note later/tomorrow. Please don't lynch me/the selection committee/Cary in the meantime :)
-- Phoebe
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Damian Finol damian@igluve.org wrote:
I'm pretty sure the swine flu had something to do with it too.
Well, I didn't want to alarm anyone, but.... *cough cough*
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