Ah, do we really want to duplicate information like this? The individual items already have "heritage status: Grade I listed structure" or somesuch. Manually curating a list on Q6646074 seems pointless when we can auto-generate it.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
So now, for the Birmingham list (first link in the mail below), I added the first few monuments to the Wikidata item for this list here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6646074
I used "has part" but maybe there should be a property "list item" or somesuch thing? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Moving monuments database to Wikidata To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition < wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
OK I am now looking at your Q number Q5642705 and I see that it is a hall, so I expect it to be an instance of hall, but it's not and it's an instance of architectural structure. This item has an enwiki Wikipedia article and when I click what links here I see the WLM list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_Birmingham Here I see only 4 columns - name, grade, date and architect
An item that is also a hall in NL is a water board building called a gemeenlandshuis. Here is an example item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2847105 This is an instance of gemeenlandshuis which in turn is a subclass of hall.
On the Dutch Wikipedia when I click what links here I see the link to the WLM list here:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_rijksmonumenten_in_Haarlemmerliede_e... This list has eight columns - name, original function, date, architect, location, coordinates, WLM ID, photo
The column headings should be coming from the monuments database, and the original function should be the reason the object made it into the WLM list.
I think both of these items should be part of a corresponding list on Wikidata. When I click what links here on Wikidata I see nothing that takes me to WLM. The only clue is the property P1435 for the British Q and property P359 for the Dutch Q.
Maybe we should augment the corresponding list items with their members so that when you click what links here you are taken to the Q number of of the list item? This effectively migrates the lists to Wikidata
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 26 July 2015 at 07:42, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
So such wikipedia articles should be labelled " instance of" <the name
of
your identifier used in WLM>.
I believe that method has been deprecated, and it is preferred to use a property P1435 ("heritage status" in English):
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1435as done, for example, on:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5642705
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