Hi Sylvain,
Sorry for not replying sooner, I missed your message...
The images were shown live, fetched directly from Commons, which means the juri would need Internet connection. Only for the presential meeting, as I tend to be extremely aware of [[Murphy's law]], I put a script to download the pre-selection (triage of the juri) so we wouldn't depend on the Internet - the voting mechanism was running on my laptop.
The full list was fetched from the statistics module of the API, IIRC: http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/
The random assigments were performed in October 1st, yes.
Best, -NT
Em 20-07-2012 10:48, Sylvain Boissel escreveu:
Hi Nuno,
Your tool looks really interesting !
How do the images got into the tool ? Do you provide a full list on October 1st ? Or are the new pictures assigned to jury members on the fly as soon as they are posted to Commons ?
Best regards, Sylvain.
2012/6/24 Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>
Greetings all, We had such a tool running on our website. Briefly: * We create tokens for each juri; * We randomly assign images for each token (each will get TOTAL/TOKENS images approx.), putting them on a "bucket level 1"; * Then, the token is sent to the juri person, which will use it to browse through the gallery of his assigned photos, and the selection process begins. * The selection process consists in 2 passes: -- The juri person either "promotes" interesting images to "bucket 2" or "demotes" uninteresting images to "bucket 0" (to mark them as viewed). -- Most probably, in the end the juri person has selected too much images for bucket 2, so the last step is to demote images from bucket 2 to 1 again. In the end, the bucket 2 should have the number we established (50) for him to have present on the juri presencial meeting. The tool was further extended for helping during the juri presencial meeting: people gather somewhere, and the tool merges the 50 selected photos from each, and then a voting mechanism is due: each juri present will assign a classification. At the end, the selection list is downloaded (for mobility) and ordered to clear out exequo's (each juri will change his vote according to the discussion). You can have a "status" from last year, here: http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.__pt/tools/juri/status.php <http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.pt/tools/juri/status.php> And I believe you can try things (this is a "running copy" of the old site): http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.__pt/tools/juri/?token=a5e88407-__be35-11e1-a7d1-eae4baf4981c <http://wlm2011.ufp.wikimedia.pt/tools/juri/?token=a5e88407-be35-11e1-a7d1-eae4baf4981c> As for the presencial meeting' extensions, I'll have to dig where did I put them . -NT Em 22-06-2012 07:11, Nicu Buculei escreveu: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Bas vb wrote: No voter will watch all images (or maybe not even a big part), so I think a public voting system will only work with lists up to a maximum of 500 pictures. Watching 10.000 pictures (and some will have 50k) just takes quite some time (1-2 days). Last year I scrolled to the categories (looking 200 pictures in 10 seconds), every picture that I liked or jumped out was then opened in a new tab by me, and if I liked the picture I copied the link and added it to a page with wikistyle pictures on big size (700px) this page I watched in preview edit mode and this way narrowed down the selection. Something like that is what we used for the jury pre-screening, we had the jury members to look at the category pages as thumbnails and make a selection from there. The links to individual image pages were collected and we produced the final voting selection with a reasonable amount of images. More people doing this, and the selection will be balanced. I think a basic but strong to tool to speed this up very much is to skip the copy the link and place it somewhere else part of that and make that a simple mouseclick. I had the people making the selection copy the image URL from the address bar copy and paste it into a text file, send it when ready. A web app can be a helpful replacement for that, but keep in mind one aspect: jury members may NOT be regular Wikipedia contributors and NOT have an account, so it have to 1. work without login and 2. keep their work together somehow. so you start with a huge category, you go throught that page by page (200 pictures a time), and select those that you like (the add pictures to list mode). These will then show in a list (where you can pick the pixel size), there you have a delete mode to delete pictures not good enough. The only thing is, no saving on Commons should be involved because participants/everybody shouldn't see what the juries select (at least not to soon). _________________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.__wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/__wikilovesmonuments <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.__eu <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu>-- Sylvain Boissel Chargé de mission communauté et technologie de Wikimédia France tél 07.62.93.42.02 - email sylvain.boissel@wikimedia.fr mailto:sylvain.boissel@wikimedia.fr - twitter @sboissel https://twitter.com/#!/sboissel
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