Lodewijk, Yes, this should be something very simple, but there may be a bit more needed than just the WLM logo. During the upload process, the 5 upload steps will appear: Learn/Upload/Release rights/Describe/Use
It would be nice if we just quickly describe these steps on the landing page. The "Describe" part is where the monument ID comes into play. An informative note somewhere about the fact that the photo is released under CC-by-SA 3.0 should be included.
I was thinking of a welcome message with these steps listed, and maybe accompanied by the local map of the selected "Wikimedia Commons campaign". A basic map may be desirable to confirm that the user has selected the correct "campaign link".
Jane
2011/8/23 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Hi,
Just picking up on the storyboard suggestion - I am afraid that would remove the whole idea of simplification. With us Wikipedians there is always the danger we want to cover everything and therefore the thing becomes too complicated. If we do a "storyboard" at all at the begin of the upload process, it should be something very simple like "welkom to Wiki Loves Monuments" , a logo and that's it. All the own work and all is covered well enough.
KISS
Lodewijk
2011/8/23 Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com
Nuno, Wow, that would be very cool if you managed to prefill the description from the tables and get the monument ID number!
Something else that came up during our meeting on Sunday for the Dutch competition was the subject of the Wikimedia Commons Licensing tutorial storyboard. I am including the link for those of you who saw it once and then opted never to see it again:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Licensing_tutorial_en.svg
basically this is a storyboard "how to upload to commons" and is split into 6 parts: Lead: Useful Tips when contributing to Wikimedia Commons Storyboard 1: You may upload works that you created entirely yourself Storyboard 2: We can't accept works created or inspired by others Storyboard 3: ...with two main exceptions Storyboard 4: In conclusion... End: Still unsure? Ask the Help desk.
We may adjust this screen for each country "campaign", or even leave it out altogether (for example, those participants who choose the Flickr group as an option will never see this page).
Nuno, if you are able to pre-fill some fields, then that would be totally awesome and this point can just be ignored, but Lodewijk mentioned that it may be useful to use this page to remind the user of the list of participating countries with a link to where the upload links are, since you can only upload to one country per "Wikimedia Commons upload campaign".
If a licensing tutorial is used, I suggest making it more compact by removing Storyboard 2/3/4 and changing the lead and end a bit to reflect the competition, such as including the name of the country in the lead or the country WLM workgroup instead of Help desk in the end, or something like that.
Jane
2011/8/22 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Thanks Maarten, can you please send me a dump of the uw_ campaign tables as they are now?
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Em 21-08-2011 22:43, Maarten Dammers escreveu:
Hi Nuno,
Op 21-8-2011 23:39, Nuno Tavares schreef:
Maarten, how come can we pre-fill the ID? I think that, in the XXI century, to force the user to manually copy the ID and paste it in the form - which is pretty error-prone - it does not make sense in a "somewhat" integrated solution.
It would also be nice to pre-fill the description with the names/descriptions we have in the lists...
I would love to have this, but I don't think we can have this implemented by September. Feel free to have a shot at it, the source code is at
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/UploadWizard/
Maarten
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