Hi,
It seems that I haven't been really clear,
I'm not talking about missing unique identifier (KGS 666), I'm talking about the names of the monuments, (church of saint wiki).
There is no list in French or Italian to be added for now because we do not know how to fix the problem that we have only names in german, even for french and italian cantons. The only place we have most of this original name is an excel sheet.
There is thousands of german templates, it's more than confusing for french and italian too :-D
Thanks
Charles
Le 27 août 2013 à 20:57, Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl a écrit :
Hi Charles,
Op 27-8-2013 20:01, Charles Andrès schreef:
Dear all, I put in copy the WLM main list to help us to fix this situation.
I believe Beat, Alex and Jean-Fred were already working on this.
- The new lists need to be added to the database (done by Alex)
- The items without an identifier need to be found and given the same temporary identifier (I believe Jean-Fred wrote a script for that)
- Some SQL magic needs to be done so that the other languages fallback to German entries if no English/French/Italian entry is available (I can do that)
We seem to have loads of different templates in German and that's very confusing to me:
- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Kulturg%C3%BCter_Schweiz_Tabellenzeile (ch-old in the database)
- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Denkmalliste_Schweiz_Tabellenzeile (ch in the database)
- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Denkmalliste2_Schweiz_Tabellenzeile (ch2 in the database)
- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Denkmalliste2_Schweiz-ZH_Tabellenzeile (ch3 in the database)
Maarten
The status today in Switrzerland is that we have a big set of lists in the German Wikipedia, and two sets of list in the Italian and French Wikipedia that do not follow the same editorial choice. The important point is that the content is really different, and we can not obviously use so different list for a national contest.
We may copy and paste the german list in commons or FR and IT wikipedia, then translate the list name and templates, but we would have to manually check the name of the more than 6000 object because the german list have only name in german.
We have excel sheets with most of the monuments with Original name.
My question is the following :
-can we copy paste the list in FR and IT wikipedia, and fixing the name in the same time or, -or work directly in the WLM database, by duplicating the german list for the french and italian , and afterwards replace the object name by the ones in the excel sheet (need to check KGS number and canton for duplicate)
Thanks to all
Charles
Le 26 août 2013 à 23:14, Estermann Beat beat.estermann@bfh.ch a écrit :
Hi Charles,
The lists on German Wikipedia containing KGS A and B objects contain more objects than the Excel Sheet from FB KGS. This is due to the fact that the Wikipedia entries were first generated based on the PDF-files available on the KGS website and then complemented by entries from the Excel sheets. Entries that are present in the PDF files but missing in the Excel sheet haven’t been deleted from the Wikipedia lists. – This is because the Excel Sheet represents work in progress that needs to be double-checked by the cantons before the next version of the PDF is produced.
Furthermore, for some cantons, German Wikipedia contains lists of objects that are protected at the cantonal level but are not recognized at KGS A or B objects. – So there are several thousands of objects in the list that are not included in the Excel Sheet.
Cheers, Beat
From: WikiLovesMonuments [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@wikimedia.ch] On Behalf Of Charles Andrès Sent: Montag, 26. August 2013 22:50 To: Wikimedia CH working group Wiki Loves Monuments Subject: Re: [WLM CH] Problems with tools
I have one question about the list, I don't remember having seen the answer.
what is the overlapping between the KGS list in the excel sheet and the german list, 100% exact same size, 100% but more in one of the two sets?
charles
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