I am sorry to read this thread. Good luck to all of you involved! Commuicating this to the uploaders must be very difficult, who I am sure will have trouble comprehending the finesses of the speedy deletion arguments. Jane
2012/10/5 Roel Balingit roel.balingit@wikimedia.org.ph
I've had the same experience in the Philippines. It's because Wikimedia Commons has determined that the Philippines doesn't have Freedom of Panorama which according to a lawyer I've talked to mentioned is not exactly accurate, but the Commons administrator would still require an official ruling from our Intellectual Property rights office which could talk a long time.
Roel
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ruwrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 23:54:50 +0200, Tomasz Ganicz wrote:
2012/10/4 Андрій Бондаренко bondareandre@gmail.com:
I need to look at these photos to be sure it is true.
Well - regarding the pictures which were assumed to be copyvio due to no freedom of panorama in Ukraine and showing buildings made by Polish architects before II World War - the case is not that obvious and IMHO should be carefully discussed - maybe even with help of professional lawyer.
I don't know anythingh about current Ukrainian law - but if we assume that
a) Lviv was Polish before II world war b) the architect was Polish citizen
The applicable copyrigh work for plans of builiding is rather Polish than Ukrainian.
Acutally the bulidings are on Ukrainian soil - but the copyright is not about physical objects but about the creative work of architect, so in fact it doesn't matter where the physical object is actually located to decide which law is applicable.
I think it is most likely that the Ukrainian law applies here and the buildings are not free - on the other hand, ALL FoP-related deletions on Commons have to go through AfD. Speedy deletions of FoP cases are not appropriate - because there are legal issues involved, there are de minimis arguments, and speedy deletion is not an appropriate avenue to address them.
Cheers Yaroslav
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