Aah thats why I couldn't find this statistic lodewijk was talking about :P
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:15:51 +0100 From: nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] New tool: rankings - v2 ready?
LOL come on guys, give me a break.
Read again, with an R at the end:
"average images per user"
-- Nuno Tavares Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.
Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
Em 14-09-2011 15:57, Bas vb escreveu:
60-70% of the dutch images is used on the dutch wiki lodewijk. only 7-10% of the european images is used on nl wiki. Maybe the error is in that it counts the second?
Mvg,
Bas
From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:25:59 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] New tool: rankings - v2 ready?
wow - only 1 in 50 submitted images (2%) for the Netherlands is being used in Wikipedia? :s I am not sure if that is actually correct though... 50% sounded much more like my empirical understanding. A quick sample gave me 6/14 images being used on Wikipedia. >confusion<
Am 14. September 2011 16:19 schrieb Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com mailto:strainu10@gmail.com>:
Yes, the stats seem ok, at least for Romania. Thanks! 2011/9/14 Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>: > Strainu, > > Indeed, the label was somewhat incorrect. That column represents > "average images per use", not a percentage, so it has been fixed. > > But the stats now are as true as possible, I believe. > > -- > Nuno Tavares > Wikimedia Portugal > http://www.wikimedia.pt > > Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que > estamos a fazer. > > Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt > > > Em 14-09-2011 13:20, Lodewijk escreveu: >> Hi Nuno, >> >> thanks for the update! I remember that in the old version, the countries >> were clickable to give you stats per country - would that be again >> possible? :) >> >> Thanks, >> Lodewijk >> >> Am 14. September 2011 12:19 schrieb Nuno Tavares >> <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>>: >> >> Strainu, >> >> I've already stated that ranking.php has problems. I found late some >> weird behaviours from mediawiki (like Rotatebot appearing as the image >> uploader, which is not correct) so I had to apply some "emergency" >> measures which didn't work quite well either. I didn't state "new users" >> which an important detail in my opinion. >> >> That's why you probably heard about statistics v2 already: >> >> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country> >> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country>> >> >> I believe these are nearly complete and absolutely more precise. As a >> consequence, everything at this URL (scope=user, dump, etc) is. >> >> Please give me your feedback regarding the tool. >> >> -- >> Nuno Tavares >> Wikimedia Portugal >> http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que >> estamos a fazer. >> >> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >> Em 13-09-2011 21:53, Strainu escreveu: >> > Hi Nuno, >> > >> > Could you please explain the limitations of your tool? >> > >> > I thought you just take the last person that modified the page, but >> > I'm looking at >> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7clinks&country=Romania> >> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7clinks&country=Romania>> >> > and I see the following: >> > >> > - I have 76 files credited to my account, however >> > >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special:ListFiles/Strainu> >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special:ListFiles/Strainu>> >> > shows that I have under 50 actually uploaded >> > - I edited all but one of this user's files: >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Adinecsoi <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special%3aListFiles/Adinecsoi> , but >> > they are still credited to her >> > - I also edited several other files of this user: >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Korinna <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special%3aListFiles/Korinna> And it >> > appears she is credited with less than the total number of photos (as >> > far as I can tell, all her uploads are in the contest) >> > >> > I would love if you could clarify this for me. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Strainu >> > >> > 2011/9/5 <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> >> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>>: >> >> Errmmmm, *cof* I forgot to update ~erfgoed/tools. Try again >> Vicenç (and >> >> Lodewijk). >> >> >> >> In any case, more interesting (and thorough) statistics will come >> during >> >> this week (I hope), this was just for fun. >> >> >> >> -NT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:13:17 +0000, Vicenç Riullop >> <vriullop@hotmail.com <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com> <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com>>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Seems it doesnt work with Spain either. >> >> Now, >> >> >> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7clinks&country=Spain> >> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7clinks&country=Spain>> >> >> returns user Pere prlpz with 148 submissions and he doesnt appear >> in the >> >> global list. >> >> >> >> Anyway, good work, Nuno. >> >> >> >> Vicenç >> >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:27:25 +0100 >> >>> From: nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>> >> >>> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >> <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] New tool: rankings >> >>> >> >>> Thanks Lodewijk, >> >>> >> >>> It had to do with bot filtering. It should be OK now. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Nuno Tavares >> >>> Wikimedia Portugal >> >>> http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >>> >> >>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade >> de ter >> >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso >> o que >> >>> estamos a fazer. >> >>> >> >>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >>> >> >>> Em 05-09-2011 07:59, Lodewijk escreveu: >> >>>> Hi Nuno, >> >>>> >> >>>> thanks for the work! It seems that the full overview of >> uploaders is not >> >>>> error free. I.e. >> >>>> in >> >>>> >> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7clinks&country=the_Netherlands> >> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images%7clinks&country=the_Netherlands>> >> >>>> Spider >> >>>> has now 219 uploads for NL, but >> >>>> on http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php he doesn't >> appear >> >>>> at all. >> >>>> >> >>>> Interesting to see by the way how some countries have such higher >> >>>> averages of photos per uploader :) >> >>>> >> >>>> Lodewijk >> >>>> >> >>>> Am 5. September 2011 05:02 schrieb Nuno Tavares >> >>>>> : >> >>>> >> >>>> I see I'm not the only statsanatic :) >> >>>> >> >>>> I've commited the tool, please use the official URL: >> >>>> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php >> >>>> >> >>>> Examples: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images%7clinks&scope=country> >> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images%7clinks&scope=country>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images%7clinks&country=Portugal> >> <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images%7clinks&country=Portugal>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Nuno Tavares >> >>>> Wikimedia Portugal >> >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >>>> >> >>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade >> de ter >> >>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso >> o que >> >>>> estamos a fazer. >> >>>> >> >>>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >>>> >> >>>> Em 04-09-2011 21:53, M escreveu: >> >>>>> Thirded, very cool! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> --------------- >> >>>>> María Sefidari >> >>>>> Wikimedia España >> >>>>> http://www.wikimedia.org.es >> >>>>> Mensaje enviado desde mi iTouch >> >>>>> >> >>>>> El 04/09/2011, a las 22:04, Jan Ainali > > >> >>>>>>> >> >>>> escribió: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I second that, nice work!! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Jane Darnell <> > >jane023@gmail.com <mailto:jane023@gmail.com> >> <mailto:jane023@gmail.com <mailto:jane023@gmail.com>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Nuno, >> >>>>>> I love it - keep the statistics coming, I like the way you think! >> >>>>>> Jane >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Nuno Tavares >> >>>>>> <> > >nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> >> <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Now, the rankings per country (parameter scope): >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images%7clinks&scope=country> >> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images%7clinks&scope=country>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Nuno Tavares >> >>>>>> Wikimedia Portugal >> >>>>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a >> >>>> possibilidade >> >>>>>> de ter >> >>>>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É >> >>>>>> isso o que >> >>>>>> estamos a fazer. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Participe também: >> >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Em 04-09-2011 20:30, Nuno Tavares escreveu: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images%7clinks> >> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images%7clinks>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Clicking on a country (Portugal): >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images%7clinks&country=Portugal> >> <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images%7clinks&country=Portugal>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> If you notice Accepted column: for Portugal we review the >> >>>>>> images and, >> >>>>>>> after that, they are placed in "Reviewed images from >> >>>>>> WLM...". If you >> >>>>>>> have a similar approach I can tweak the script to >> >>>>>> personalize it. It >> >>>>>>> would be better to unify the categories' names, though... >> >>>>>> Which ones are >> >>>>>>> yours? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> PS: I didn't notice the reuploads (e.g. by Rotatebot) would >> >>>>>> scramble >> >>>>>>> things a bit, so I excluded the bots from this - admitting >> >>>>>> noone would >> >>>>>>> reupload other one's image. 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