Romaine and Maarten, After a difficult few hours, I did manage to create a set of templates (table header + table row) for one town in Wallonia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_beschermd_erfgoed_in_Beauvechain
I think I get the mails you sent here much better now! I will try to finish up the lists for Wallonia later and then I will look at the ones for Brussels and Vlanders after that.
Jane
2011/8/31 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl
Porting one set of monuments from one Wikipedia to another can be done in a couple of hours.
- Copy the header template. Rename and translate it.
- Copy the row template. Rename the template, rename the parameters and
translate it.
- Copy all the lists to your user space (like user:Multichill/<original
title>)
- Using regular expressions change the names of the templates and the
parameters and add an interwiki link
These are the steps that take up the most time:
- Have users check and translate the lists in your userpage
- Once a list is checked, more it to main space
Maarten
Op 31-8-2011 1:57, Romaine Wiki schreef:
Hello Jane,
The government has decided that specific objects are classified as monuments, and that includes also old monumental trees, buildings, graveyards, and complete sites.
You can also create tables yourself without table-templates, but we noticed that using these templates for the tables we found it easier to adjust something everywhere. In particular it is also useful for bots/tools to put automatically new pictures in the lists based on the given id-number of the template-row. In that way all lists on all wiki's pictures easily can be added, in all the languages the lists have been created in. And that will be in future many languages.
Greetings - Romaine
--- On *Tue, 8/30/11, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com jane023@gmail.com
- wrote:
From: Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com jane023@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM BE/LUX completed + Belgian Chapter To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.orgwikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 9:08 PM
Romaine, OK I understand now - there are trees in there as well as buildings, but OK, I will try to look at this tomorrow.
Do I need Tabelkop and tabelrij templates? Can't I just convert the stuff in Excel and make a new table using the table generator excel2wiki? Jane
2011/8/30 Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=romaine_wiki@yahoo.com
Hello Jane,
If I take as example:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_beschermd_onroerend_erfgoed_in_Waterm...
Two templates are needed: the header (Tabelkop ...) and the row-template (Tabelrij ...). I think the parameters should be renamed to the language of the wiki, the header should be translated, and certainly the desriptions should be translated. Users from fr-wiki especially would like the lists of Brussels Capital Region to be translated to English, then more users can participate as well in translating to French.
Was this what you wanted to know?
Greetings - Romaine
--- On *Tue, 8/30/11, Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jane023@gmail.com
- wrote:
From: Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jane023@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM BE/LUX completed + Belgian Chapter
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.orghttp://mc/compose?to=wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 6:33 PM
Romaine, If you explain what is needed I can try and do the lists in the English Wikipedia. Do I just need to translate the headers, or also all of the descriptions? Jane
2011/8/29 Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=romaine_wiki@yahoo.com
About the lists:
- at nl-wiki we have all the lists from Flanders, Wallonia, Brussels and
Luxembourg translated into Dutch.
- at fr-wiki there aren't any lists of monuments of municipalities. However
we have in Wallonia and for Luxembourg information about the monuments available in French, on the website and in a pdf-file. We are still waiting for users from fr-wiki to create those lists with the monuments, and to undelete those which had been created earlier but got deleted for no reason. Who can take this up at fr-wiki: undelete and create all the lists of Belgium and Luxembourg.
- at de-wiki not much has been done about monuments in Belgium and
Luxembourg, we are still waiting for users of de-wiki who want to create the lists of monuments on their wiki.
- at en-wiki the same situation, we are waiting for users of en-wiki who
can set up the lists.
Ans yes it is possible to get that done, as we got that done too on nl-wiki. If help is needed or the lists have been created, please let me know!
And the next step should be a Belgian chapter, covering the country Luxembourg as well. We from Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium/Luxembourg got supported by Wikimedia Netherlands, Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Deutschland. Let those chapters also support us with the creation of the Belgian chapter!
The logo we already have: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Belgium_logo.svg
And to make communication easier we need http://be.wikimedia.org
Yes, help wanted!
Greetings - Romaine
--- On Sun, 8/28/11, Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk@googlemail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=zvandijk@googlemail.com> wrote:
From: Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk@googlemail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=zvandijk@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM BE/LUX completed To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.orghttp://mc/compose?to=wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 10:10 PM Hello,
Very multilingual, very impressive.
(It's a pity that the luxembourghish lists are not in German still.)
Kind regards Ziko
2011/8/28 Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=romaine_wiki@yahoo.com :
Hello all,
I have almost completed the website. Ik heb de website vrijwel voltooid.
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be
Greetings - Romaine
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