We should definitely stick to our usual procedures on Commons - and make sure that the law is followed. Of course WLM is a good argument why Freedom of Panorama is a Good Thing but that is another discussion.
It would be very helpful if uploaders can early in the prrocess identify which buildings will be protected, and which are possible to be photographed of course.
Lodewijk (who is very happy that NL has Freedom of Panorama)
No dia 22 de Setembro de 2011 11:24, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ruescreveu:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:54:28 +0400, Анастасия Львова stasielvova@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
as far as I understand, it was one of the main barriers which delayed the participation of Russia.
No. The problem was a base with a Lenin monuments of XIX century. Fear of lack of FOP is one of the reasons of small activity of existing users - so we have big activity of new users. We see that they make mistakes in this area, but even from them the count of errors is very small and the jury given the task to solve it carefully.
Well, I obviously have smth to say about this - and I will post it on October 1, so that we do not get distracted from the current activity. But just to mention it, the database has a number of typos (like the one you cite), what is more important, it has a big number of more serious errors - the monuments which are still protected by law and included in the database but do not factually exist. The point is that this is not so much an obstacle for running WLM, since hardly anybody would provide monuments of non-existing monuments, and if someone would, this could be a major success. (I think if we could collect in such a way free images of wooden churches burned in Arkhangelsk Oblast in 1970s-1980s it would be great). On the other hand, the FoP is a real issue - the images which violate FoP are subject to deletion on Commons, and you do not want a new user to start his/her participation in Wikipedia with a deletion review notice on his/her talk page. The fraction of non-free images is obviously small, since most of the monuments of cultural heritage protected in Russia were created before 1917 and thus are PD-RusEmpire. I believe (but did not check) that this fraction is even lower in Saint-Petersburg.
Cheers Yaroslav
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