Just replying to some points.
Yaroslav M. Blanter, 01/10/2011 17:22:
To my understanding, the purpose of WLM is a subset of WMF mission: To facilitate creation and propagation of free knowledge related to cultural heritage (specifically, monuments of architecture and history).
:-/ Not necessarily WMF mission, but Wikimedia [movement] mission, which is broader.
Second, I guess we should keep photos as the main target, but we should make it clear that we are interested in (i) photos of the monuments which previously had no photos; (ii) new photos of the monuments which illustrate some particular details not covered previously; (iii) photos which have superior quality over those previously existed.
I agree, but I think that not so great submissions should be welcome if they're the only way someone can participate: there's no reason to reject them, I don't think they give much more work. Your points are already included in the rules, but they will be applied by the jury ex post: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Concept#Judging_criteria (i) can be measured, I suppose: it would be a nice statistic.
Third, I think we should start slowly moving to writing articles and have prizes for this. I am not sure what is the best way to organize this (one way for instance would be like in GLAM Derby, with a number of points for an article in each language depending on the quality of the article - in this case it needs to be sorted out whether a particular country gives prizes only for the articles on the languages of this country, only about monuments of this country or whatever, we have a year to discuss the terms),
I'm not so sure about it: prizes for articles have proven to be difficult and AFAIK they've mostly failed. There are some successful examples but it doesn't work everywhere.
but if in 2012 articles are no part of the competition, we seriously risk to lose the most successful countries - those which are better organized and where are little or no photos left.
Not necessarily: you can choose another target to take photos of.
- Reaching out the countries which do not participate in WLM. If a country
is unfortunate to have no chapter, or to have an unable chapter, or to have a chapter not interested in WLM it still can be helped if the lists of monuments somehow exist. I would definitely invest time in creating the heritage lists for say Albania or Guatemala if there is some input provided somehow. This is the work for the project.
I'm not sure I understand this: how would you get the official lists with no local contact? not to mention the importance of local promotion, which is useful but might be not necessary (one should study the country statistics).
PS The will be no Analysis II from my part unless solicited.
+1 solicitation (for that matters).
Hubert, 02/10/2011 08:27:
I very agree, that the goal, to attrakt new users with such an competition as long-term wikipedia-autors, is almost completely missed.
How can you say it? We have 4000 new users; we need some months to see what they're going to do.
This is still an inside job. Who will address those people and encourage them to continue with article work?
I don´t know, if other countries have some person, who does the Job of an Wikipedia-Mediator for new users.
See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:B%C3%BCcherw%C3%BCrmlein/Best_practices_in_mentoring_programs (and there's some ongoing work elsewhere). This certainly helps; it would be interesting to see the de.wiki project at work on German-speaking users and compare the new users retention with other languages.
Nemo