This is super cool How to get this working for other countries ?
-- naveenpf
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Peter Ekman pdekman@gmail.com wrote:
Kaldari came up with a tool for WLM-US which works quite well IMHO as a part of the jury process, but is not the whole answer. I'm not a coder, so I can't fully explain it or adapt it for your uses, so technical questions and requests should go to Kaldari. I'm also not volunteering him for anything, it's very possible that he may not have the time, but maybe somebody else could adapt it.
But feel free to try it - in a real working situation - at http://toolserver.org/~kaldari/reviewer/review.php for US pictures I'll just say, when in doubt, hit "can't decide". It also has a quirk or two - in which case just hit the reload button on your browser or quit with no harm done.
The logic is that you can include a photo for further consideration by clicking "Nominate", or you can eliminate it from further consideration by clicking "Decline for nomination" and when you can't decide click "can't decide." It works by manipulating categories on the photo's file "Category:WLM-US 2012 unreviewed" to start off, then "reviewed" and/or "nominated" We're aiming to eliminate 90% at this point - keeping up as the photos come in. But in reality we're keeping 14%. I think one of the quirks is when folks manually change categories - it can just stay in the unreviewed category forever. The fix here is just manually changing the categories to the correct state.
It's a tough system (but quick) "one strike and you're out." But it is needed if you have several thousand photos to go through and want to get down to a few hundred in a reasonable time so that you can properly consider the best ones.
I'd love it if there could be a positive version of this - say click keep and the bot places the file name in your sandbox - but the problem there would be you don't eliminate anything and the possible selection just keeps on growing.
The ultimate answer would be a voting system something like POTY - but I have my doubts that this can be done with 1,000s of photos coming in one end and hundreds coming out the other. The mathematics of proper discrimination would require at least 5 or so votes (up or down) per photo so lots of datahandling would be involved.
So, in short, people judging along multiple dimensions at the same time and taking time with each photo are going to be required at some point. The above only helps to winnow in a systematic way, so that the people can get involved with a reasonable number of photos to deal with.
I'd love to hear how other folks handle this problem or anybody who has a better tool.
Pete Ekman User:Smallbones
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:05:03 -0200 From: Itzik Edri itzik@infra.co.il To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] jury process - round 2 Message-ID: <CAOi8FzX-KWrv+JUr51LdoxAyhiA7JDXcDep0vH1u= W3zj35riQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
Correct me if I missed something, but I didn't really saw yet a tool which the chapters can use for the jury process. I saw a link to WMPT tool on the last thread that I found, but didn't understand at the end of him, if he available to uses by others, how hard is to install him and etc...
Is there any new ideas or tools that we may use (the chapters who don't have technical guys to handle things :))
Itzik
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