2011/7/21 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Hubert, congratulations for having this test scenario. It might work as a fallback.
However, it's planned to be a special upload form for us (WLM), because the original form is just "too noisy", I mean, the user doesn't want to know about {{Information}} - and most important, it should not be able to accidentally change that information.
Thus, the link shall be extremely simplified in the meantime; it would be somewhat near of having to pass only an ID (I'm assuming the upload wizard has access to the monuments DB).
As I understand it (but I'm not technical, so for details and contradictions I refer to our tech wizards ;-) ) it would not be easy to let the wizard have access to the database too. However, if we can include the identifier only, then it would already be possible to afterwards go through the uploads with a bot and make all the other changes based on the database! (basically the same, but with a slight delay)
I like the idea of having links from the articles as well. At WMP we spent some time crossing the list with the article links and commons category, so we should know exactly which articles really exist (for the objects on the list). This way we could run through all and put a simple template just to say "Upload photos for this article and win prizes!", something like that (this is obviously an exaggeration).
Having the link in the table seems possible as well, at least for those who compiled the lists with a template, as recommended.
Great work Hubert!
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Hubert escreveu:
Am 21.07.2011 14:49, schrieb Lodewijk:
Hi Hubert,
thanks a lot for the clarification. I did not mean to suggest the bigger picture was less important, it definitely is worth going after! It sounds great what you are all doing, I have so little to add to it. It is only that I wanted to be sure about a few things because it is relevant for European coordination, hence :)
dear Lodewijk,
for me, an european coordination is essential. but not just for WLM, even for any other picture-Contest ever happen, or happen in an european public context. We want all pictures, which are made in such competitions in future. :-)
Uploading directly linked from the monument lists sounds like walhalla!
Look here, there is a small table (it is just a testsituation since yesterday!!), where you can see three icons below "Standort":
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw/Test/2
with one Click, (commons-icon) you can upload your photo (if you have an account), If you don´t have an account, then you will first be prompted to create one.
All informations which belong to this property will be transfered with a link to commons, including the spatial data, Name of the Objekt, adress, and additionally an object ID. So, the uploading is extremely simple. Just select the foto, an send it. Thats all. We are even thinking about to handover the short description of this objekt (if there is an description).
Because there are already a lot of articles to individual objects, it is conceivable that even in articles to objects, we can makes a direct link to upload pictures. Fixed with similar specifications, so that it is extremlely easy for new User to take part.
During this process, all pictures from this property will also be correctly categorized inside commons (should be), so we can separate it easily for the contest itself.
Later then, there will be a link inside the tables to see all/more pictures of this particular object in Commons. (like: Object in Commons) Just with one Click. Like this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Palais_Pallavicini?uselang=de
This is our plan for this Year. Next year maybe it is possible to participate to WLM2012 directly from OSM, because we would like to transfer all our 36.000 Objekts to OpenStreeMap. Maybe even to GoogleMaps and BingMaps.
In all cases, partipicants will come first to our lists (or articles), then to the upload-form.
Next Year! Or the following two :-)
regards
Hubertl
Lodewijk
2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
Am 21.07.2011 14:00, schrieb Lodewijk: > Hi Hubert, > > thanks a lot for this report. It sounds like an excitingcooperation!
> > However, it is not entirely clear to me how big the overlap is with the > Wiki Loves Monuments contest - in any case I love to hear about it, but > just to make sure we are on one line. Will the WLM contest inAustria
> also be throughout the whole month September, also have a jury > delivering nominations before November 1, and awarding prizes on > national level? Hi Lodewijk, WLM is the central point of all our efforts in Austria for the next months, it has its own website (as in Germany and in othercountries)
WLM is supported throughout by all Wikipedians in Austria. The last point, jury and prize award is much more the work and responsibility of Wikimedia Austria. For most Wikipedians inAustria,
this everything around will have no significance. We will go so far that uploading photos for WLM can also beperformed
directly from the the monument lists, directly from the object, which allows automatically the assigning of every photo withthe
individual objekt-ID. During september (and before), all efforts go directly into the Wiki loves monuments projekt. But, we are looking further. The monument lists are completed right now in Austria to 98%. Wewill
finish all Lists until the end of August, so that we can use it asone
starting point for WlM. And not the lists only, even the related Community-articles and related Articles. These additional agreements with the Federal Heritage Office alsoserve
Wikipedia and Commons as an important tool to become part of the Austrian education system. For me personally, WLM is just one part of a much bigger idea. Butvery
impressive in its very special momentum. Hubertl > > Thanks, > > Lodewijk > > 2011/7/21 Hubert <hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at<mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at <mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>> > > First report for Austria: > > The project Wiki Loves monument takes place simultaneously with their > own efforts for the acquisition of Austrias cultural heritagein
> Wikipedia. The Dehio-project was started in Austria in December 2009, > but the systematic recording of the objects starts this year on a larger > scale. Particularly noteworthy is that there are about 80 to100
> austrian Wikipedians who contribute to this project (lists of > monuments). > > Cooperation with the Federal Monuments Office(Bundesdenkmalamt)
> > A delegation of Wikipedians Wikimedia Austria, have brought about a > far-reaching cooperation with the Federal Heritage Office of Austria. > > This cooperation involves several steps, the period of the collaboration > is intended to be permanent. > > Wikipedia and Wikimedia Austria are officially a partner of the Federal > Monuments Office for at first two photo contests (National Heritage Day > and International Heritage Photographic Experience.) > > The Federal Heritage Office itself supports the monument list team of > Wikipedia in extensive form with the corresponding data for 36000
> objects of all listed properties in Austria. > > Especially with regard to the annual update of all content. This allows > Wikipedia to create monument lists for all municipalities in Austria to > create these lists and to actualize those lists in short term to bring > them up to date automatically to a great extent. > > The following two photo contests were discussed and agreement reached. > > 1. The Heritage Day - especially the photo competition for the day, > which takes place annually on the last Sunday in September. > > 2. IHPE - International Heritage Photographic Experience. (Beginning in > October 2011 to March 2012) > > The Heritage Day > > The European Heritage Days are a Community Action under the patronage of > the Council of Europe and the European Commission and will take place > this year for the 25th Time in a now 50 member countries. The event > itself runs throughout September in Europe, in Austria on thelast
> Sunday of the month. The core of the Heritage Day for Austria will be > the accessibility of listed buildings with guided tours, whichare
> usually not publicly accessible. More important, we should also yield > because of the photo. > > > International Heritage Photographic Experience > > The second agreemanent is also under the auspices of the Council of > Europe standing photo contest for young person under 21 years by the > Federal Monuments Office for the 7th Times for Austria and is generally > dedicated to the cultural heritage. Overall, it is the 16th > competition. The website of the organizers based in Catalonia > (Generalitat de Catalunya, Museo d'Historia de Catalunya) shows the 14 > Competition and pictures of the final event in Strasbourg. > > The purpose of this competition will be photos of all 36 000 monuments > which are listed in the Wikipedia lists of monuments, which can then be > assigned directly by id-numbers, corresponding to therespective
> objects. All these photos become part of Wikimedia Commons. > > Overall, young people from 50 countries participate in this event, with > each country organizes the competition on their own and perform - as > well as the selection of the winning photos -, which then opens into a > common, printed catalog, which is produced in Barcelona. At the end of > each year, a large final event (this year on 6 December 2011 at the > Palais de l'Europe in Strasbourg), which is simultaneously the start of > the last part of a years contest, because in March, 31, 2012 is the > closing for upload images for the previous content. > > All photos, which are made in these competitions in Austria are part > of Wikimedia Commons. > > Other projects > > MEMORIAL place of learning is the cultural exchange program ofthe
> Federal Monuments Office. > > "The goal is to learn together with teachers and students know the > areas of Monument, Monument Protection and Conservation, to explore and > experience. Whether through projects, workshops or tours - in the center > of the monument are a place of learning and exploration exploration of > our cultural heritage in the living environment of childrenand
> adolescents. The meeting opened with monuments young creative freedom > and develops a variety of talents, so that perception and appreciation > for cultural products can grow. " > > - Federal Monuments Office, Andrea Böhm > > Another project - currently standing in the development phase - is so > called "monument in the village" This action helds place in Austria's > schools and communities to discover and to motivate people documenting > their own cultural environment and is expected to start in spring 2012. > > Wikipedia will also be part of this project, because it is directly > related to the Wikipedia article-work and part of the monuments lists > themselves. > > What is the benefit for Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons? > > All taken pictures which have been taken through the years during all > events are on some hard drives and are not used for public use. All the > pictures from this events for the next few years, will be partof
> Wikimedia Commons under a free license given, Cc-by-sa-3.0 AT. This is > determined by us, the Federal Monuments Office supports this idea and > implement it explicitly. The same also applies for all photographs that > are done for the day of the memorial. These photos are part of Wikimedia > Commons, equally as the photos for Wiki Loves monument. > > Both photo projects aimed at young people primarily - but not only - in > order to bring the idea of protecting cultural heritage values. The > Federal Monuments Office will launch in schools and other institutions > in total 137 000 folders, and all interested participants will be guided > to upload to the website of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. > > Wikipedians will also participate in the jury (pre-judging / ev. Main > panel) for all contests, listen above. > > Greetings Hubertl (de:wikipedia) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> > <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
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