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Top level Commons categories per country
by Jane Darnell 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Hi all, I am sending out a new message, since I feel this issue is pretty important and impacts a lot of Wikipedia projects. The other issues that Bas addressed also need follow up, but let's tackle these categories first. This is the list of categories as they stand today on Commons in the top level category (see the email from Bas): Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Andorra with known IDs Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Austria with known IDs Category:Onroerend erfgoed with known IDs Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Brussels with known IDs Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Estonia (with known IDs) Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Hesse with known ID Category:Rijksmonumenten with known IDs Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Portugal with known IDs Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Romania with known IDs Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Spain with known IDs Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Wallonia with known IDs I think only the Belgians and the Dutch have chosen their names well, because they are using the terms that are covered by law in their country. The other categories should be renamed to reflect the legal term in those countries. My reasons are as follows: 1) The term "Cultural heritage monument" is not defined anywhere, in any country's wikipedia. 2) We are using a formal designation that has been assigned by a government agency and is covered by the European Council's international law on cultural property. In order to refer to the proper designation, we need the formal name of the designation. 3) The sub categories are going to have native names anyway, so why have a strangely named top-level category that no one understands (including English-speakers)? 4) When we make interwiki links to these things we should be consistent across all countries. I noticed a confusing situation has already occurred in the German Wikipedia, where the top level category for the Austrian monuments is "Kategorie:Liste (Kulturdenkmale in Österreich)", when I fully expected it to be "Kategorie:Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte". On Commons I would expect "Category:Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte with known IDs", and in the English Wikipedia, I named it "Category:Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte". Jane

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T-Shirts
by Nicole Ebber 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Hi all, Tomasz and I have found several companies who could print our t-shirts at reasonable prices (5,50 Euro per Shirt). My suggestion is to have black shirts with the wlm logo and url (wikilovesmonuments.eu) on the front and the wikipedia logo on the back (very small, right under the neck). I would use the same shirt for all countries, without any specific dates and locations. What do you think? My questions: * What are we planning to use the shirts for? Suggestions: ** as Prices ** for the "organisers" of local events ** for the attendees of local events ** shall we also offer the shirts on our websites for free orders or even sell them there? * How many shirts (and which sizes (m/w) would YOUR country need? Would be best to order them altogether, that makes the prices cheaper. * Where can we discuss and document this (mailinglist is not very convenient)? Google sheet? Best Nicole -- Nicole Ebber Projektmanagerin Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Eisenacher Straße 2 10777 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 219158260 http://wikimedia.de Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition: http://wikipedia.de/wke/. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Blog post about the Europeana Art Nouveau prize
by Maarten Dammers 01 Aug '11

01 Aug '11

http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/2011/07/30/art-nouveau-prize/ :-)

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Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxemburg
by Romaine Wiki 01 Aug '11

01 Aug '11

Hello all, At the moment users from nl-wiki and fr-wiki are working together to organize Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium. As Belgium itself has no chapter at the moment, we have asked Wikimedia France and Wikimedia Netherlands to help us out with the prices for the competition. Today we noticed that Luxemburg is still missing on the map of countries who participate in joining Wiki Loves Monuments. The impression we got is that users from lb-wiki are interested, but as they have no chapter as well and as they are with little people, they do not think they can organize their own competition themselves. However, they do have all the monument-lists in Luxemburg already on lb-wiki. So we suggested today that Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will cover the country Luxembourg as well so that the hole in the map can be filled in. That will give a combined competition in Belgium and Luxemburg together. Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium will also cover the German-speaking parts of Belgium. If there are people wanting to help us with our competition, please let us know, help is much appreciated! Thanks! Greetings - Romaine

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WLM meetup in Haifa?
by Lodewijk 31 Jul '11

31 Jul '11

Hi all, would there be any interest in having a WLM meetup in Haifa on Tuesday for those already there? Just informal, though sharing and having some dinner together. Nothing secretive, so everybody who wants to can join. Please shout aye if interested to get an idea of the numbers. Lets meet around 18:30 at the venue, I'll send an exact meeting point if I know one (or if anyone has a suggestion? Unfortunately the helpdesk already closes at 1800h. ) Lodewijk

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Coordinates
by Lars Aronsson 30 Jul '11

30 Jul '11

What different projects and success stories do we have for adding geographic coordinates to existing articles in various languages of Wikipedia? In some languages there are WikiProjects, but I think they were more active some years ago. I tried to count now, and I think the Swedish language Wikipedia has 32,600 geographic coordinates for its 404,000 articles or one coordinate per 12.4 articles. Is that reasonable or is it far below the average? I need a success story to learn from. -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] About wikilovesmonuments.eu, Partners section
by Lodewijk 27 Jul '11

27 Jul '11

Hi Charles, I thought about that too, and concluded that this would probably differ too much from country to country. Remember the purpose of this list - just making a nice wall with all that support Wiki Loves Monuments :) For that, the exact title they get in your contest, doesn't matter. If it is very important to you, you can always add a field though. Lodewijk 2011/7/27 charles andres <charles.andres(a)wikimedia.ch> > May we make a difference between “partners” and “sponsors”, it is quite > different, also in term of communication for the companies we are citing.* > *** > > ** ** > > Charles**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ___________________________________________________________ > Charles ANDRES, Membre du Comité > Wikimedia CH <http://www.wikimedia.ch>- Association pour l'avancement des > connaissances libres > > Skype: charles.andres.wmch > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch**** > > ** ** > > *De :* wikilovesmonuments-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > wikilovesmonuments-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *De la part de* Lodewijk > *Envoyé :* mercredi, 27. juillet 2011 01:40 > *À :* Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition > *Objet :* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] About wikilovesmonuments.eu, Partners > section**** > > ** ** > > I think you are creepy and doing a course mindreading! Maarten and I have > been brainstorming last weekend, and we actually came up with a similar > thought - making a nice wallpaper-ish page on the wikilovesmonuments.eupage with all partner logos on it, a bit similar to the backgrounds you see > in football interviews after a match. We would need to set up a nice page on > Commons asking for the logo (external link is OK), the name of the sponsor, > their website and the country they are sponsoring. To keep things simple I > suggest to throw all levels for that together and not diversify. **** > > ** ** > > So... sounds great :) I'll put a collection page up on > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/sponsors (if > someone can properly link it etc that would be great - and feel free to work > on the layout) and ask everybody now to put their sponsors on it with the > asked information. Be generous with putting up sponsors/partners! I'll put > up one for NL as example and will leave the others for a bit later (it is > late now :P )**** > > ** ** > > Lodewijk**** > > ** ** > > 2011/7/26 Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares(a)wikimedia.pt>**** > > Hey all, > > I wonder what everybody think about listing each country' partners in > the European "partner" section? > > Special care should be taken to highlight European-level partners, of > course, but that could give more visibility to each local partner and, > consequently, motivate them to partner with us. > > What do you think? > > -- > Nuno Tavares > Wikimedia Portugal > http://www.wikimedia.pt > > Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que > estamos a fazer. > > Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] About wikilovesmonuments.eu, Partners section
by Jane Darnell 27 Jul '11

27 Jul '11

Charles, Some countries only have one organization to deal with, but you are quite right - the commercial partners are of a different nature than the "government-sponsored public awareness" organizations. I think we should lend a hand to both by making wiki pages for them, and also for the parent government organizations (usually some ministry of culture or something like that) Jane 2011/7/27 charles andres <charles.andres(a)wikimedia.ch> > May we make a difference between “partners” and “sponsors”, it is quite > different, also in term of communication for the companies we are citing.* > *** > > ** ** > > Charles**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ___________________________________________________________ > Charles ANDRES, Membre du Comité > Wikimedia CH <http://www.wikimedia.ch>- Association pour l'avancement des > connaissances libres > > Skype: charles.andres.wmch > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch**** > > ** ** > > *De :* wikilovesmonuments-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > wikilovesmonuments-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *De la part de* Lodewijk > *Envoyé :* mercredi, 27. juillet 2011 01:40 > *À :* Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition > *Objet :* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] About wikilovesmonuments.eu, Partners > section**** > > ** ** > > I think you are creepy and doing a course mindreading! Maarten and I have > been brainstorming last weekend, and we actually came up with a similar > thought - making a nice wallpaper-ish page on the wikilovesmonuments.eupage with all partner logos on it, a bit similar to the backgrounds you see > in football interviews after a match. We would need to set up a nice page on > Commons asking for the logo (external link is OK), the name of the sponsor, > their website and the country they are sponsoring. To keep things simple I > suggest to throw all levels for that together and not diversify. **** > > ** ** > > So... sounds great :) I'll put a collection page up on > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/sponsors (if > someone can properly link it etc that would be great - and feel free to work > on the layout) and ask everybody now to put their sponsors on it with the > asked information. Be generous with putting up sponsors/partners! I'll put > up one for NL as example and will leave the others for a bit later (it is > late now :P )**** > > ** ** > > Lodewijk**** > > ** ** > > 2011/7/26 Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares(a)wikimedia.pt>**** > > Hey all, > > I wonder what everybody think about listing each country' partners in > the European "partner" section? > > Special care should be taken to highlight European-level partners, of > course, but that could give more visibility to each local partner and, > consequently, motivate them to partner with us. > > What do you think? > > -- > Nuno Tavares > Wikimedia Portugal > http://www.wikimedia.pt > > Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que > estamos a fazer. > > Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >

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Status Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium
by Romaine Wiki 26 Jul '11

26 Jul '11

Hallo allen / hello all, Nederlandse versie meer naar onderen. Status of the current situation regarding Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium: - Luxembourg-wiki agrees to participate in Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium. - Michiel1972 is adding the lists of monuments in Luxembourg to nl-wiki, they already are on lb-wiki. - Both Wikimedia France as Wikimedia Netherlands have both promised to sponsor WLM BE for the prices. Thanks to Otourly and KThoelen for talking with the chapters. Otourly and KThoelen are busy to get the prices arranged and other things as well. - MADe has said to have spoken with a heritage agency in Belgium, but we do not know much at the moment due the vacation of MADe. - Dolledre has said he wants to look for some members of the jury. - Romaine, Noorse and other users are currently adding descriptions to a lot of monumentlists on nl-wiki, so that the lists are fully translated in Dutch. - SPQRobin has said he want to work on the website www.wikilovesmonuments.be , it is only waiting for the signing-in is fixed/arranged. Maybe I missed someone, please let me know! -------------------------------------------------- Hallo allen, Wellicht handig om een overzicht te scheppen van de voorbije week aan activiteiten: - Luxemburg stemt in om mee te doen met WLM BE. - Michiel1972 voegt momenteel de lijsten van de Luxemburgse monumenten toe aan nl-wiki, ze staan reeds op lb-wiki. - Zowel Wikimedia France als Wikimedia Nederland hebben toegezegd WLM BE te willen sponsoren, met dank aan Otourly en KThoelen die hierover met de chapters gesproken hebben. Otourly en KThoelen zijn bezig om voor de prijzen en meer te zorgen. - MADe heeft gezegd dat hij gesproken heeft met een erfgoed-organisatie, maar daar is weinig van bekend wegens de vakantie van MADe. - Dolledre heeft aangegeven dat hij wil kijken of hij een jury kan formeren. - Romaine, Noorse en andere gebruikers zijn bezig om de monumentenlijsten van Wallonië verder in te vullen zodat er overal straks Nederlandstalige omschrijvingen staan. Wie wil er meehelpen? Zie: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Erfgoed/Belgische_Erfgoe… - SPQRobin heeft toegezegd om aan de website te werken van www.wikilovesmonuments.be , maar het wachten is op de inlogcodes zodat we aan de slag kunnen. Ik hoop op deze manier een beetje een beeld te geven wie wat aan het doen is. Wellicht mis ik nog actieve gebruikers, geef dan even een schreeuw. Greetings - Romaine

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Update European tools
by Maarten Dammers 24 Jul '11

24 Jul '11

Hi everyone, Everyone is busy working on their national contest. Some things you have to do locally, other things are provided on a European level. A lot of things were already mentioned on this list, but I would to provide a list anyway. What are the things we can offer: * Upload form : There is going to be an upload form per country in multiple languages. We're working on the details with the WMF. When the prototype is ready I expect each country to provide input (my Belarusian is not what it used to be). I'll send around another email when I know more (soon I hope). Notes at[1] * Automatic categorization: If the unique identifier of a monument is provided, it's possible to automatically categorize images after uploadusing an automated bot which has access to the database. This is already up and running. Take for example the Netherlands. Images are uploaded to Category:Rijksmonumenten with a identifier ({{Rijksmonument|<id>}}). The bot keeps an eye on category:Rijksmonumenten and tries to categorize these images every once in a while. How does this work? Every id is in a list. A list contains a link to Commons ({{Commonscat|<some category>}}). The bot uses this information to categorize the image. This can be set up for every country with unique identifiers.Example at [2]. * Automatic addition of coordinates: If you monuments have an unique identifier and the list entry contains coordinates for a monument, a bot will add this location ({{Object location|<lat>|<lon>}}) to the image. This can be set up for every country with unique identifiers.Example at [3]. * Monuments api [4]: The monuments api is going to be the basis for multiple tools: ** Monuments on the map in Open StreetMap, Google Maps & Google Earth. This should be easy to embed in your own website. This is not finished yet. ** Augmented reality using Layar. Prototype at [5] ** Maybe more? * Commonist:Would be great if someone can pick up the Commonist Simplification - a simplified Commonist fork which prefills all fields where possible and makes it useful for non-nerds. Current version explanation available on [6]. To pick this up, you need to be able to program in java. Especially for the monuments api based tools we could use more help. We already have a lot of cool local tools. It would be great if we have some awesome European tools too from which all countries can benefit. A full (raw) list of tools is available at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monu… Maarten & Lodewijk [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:NeilK/Multimedia2011/WikiLovesMonuments [2] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/w/index.php?title=File%3ADon… <https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/w/index.php?title=File%3ADon…> [3] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/w/index.php?title=File:Donke… <https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/w/index.php?title=File:Donke…> [4] http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/api/api.php <http://toolserver.org/%7Eerfgoed/api/api.php> [5] http://owlz.org/?url=http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/layar/location.html <http://owlz.org/?url=http://toolserver.org/%7Eerfgoed/layar/location.html> [6] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist

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