I am sorry, but something has been miscommunicated I am afraid. By accident,
I found out about
http://www.viquimedia.cat/viqui/L'Alguer_a_la_Viquipèdia/it . It says a few
things I am not really happy about. First of all, it uses "Wiki loves
Monuments" for a quite general competition, starting next week. It is of
course up to the local organizers to organize contests, but please if you
want to make it a Wiki Loves Monuments, then stick to roughly the same time
frame and rule sets. If you persist in a different timeframe, it is a
different contest, and I would appreciate it if you would avoid confusion
with Wiki Loves Monuments.
Second, there were concerns expressed about the legal status of such contest
in Italy, which was the reason for Wikimedia Italia (unfortunately) to not
participate because they considered it legally impossible because of Italian
copyright. As far as I am aware, Alguer lies in Italy, and falls under
Italian law. Therefore, I am doubtful about this - I don't say it is
impossible, but it definitely needs more time.
Thirdly, it uses *email* as submission method. This is problematic in
several ways. It does not provide an easy workflow, does not familiarize
people with Wikimedia's uploading system, and put wikipedia down as having
an editorial council, which accepts content by email. I would find it very
unwise to offer this as main upload tool. Tools will be developed in all
participating languages in due time, but you will have to stick to the same
timeframe for that.
Finally, I see big issues with requesting such private data of contestants -
you are asking for social security numbers etc - I am not sure this is
totally unacceptable both as a contestant and as an organizer.
Of course I might have misinterpreted the page, my Italian is existing of a
few words, and I need to use translation devices to properly understand the
page, but there seem to be some big issues. Is there anyone here who is
responsible for this contest and who can perhaps explain and help solve the
Hay has made a placeholder website for wikilovesmonuments.eu - this will not
be the final design, and input and help is probably very welcome. Please get
in touch with Hay, in a seperate thread on this mailing list.
There are other improvements to be made, I suggest to keep textual
improvements etc for the meeting in May.
The proposal for Wiki Loves Monuments Europe is around for a while now, and
we're getting somewhere! On  you can find that there are currently 10 (!)
countries interested in participating. This report is to help you get an
idea of what is going on, where we are and where we are going. Any
additional information about your countries situation would be extremely
The following countries have indicated that they want to participate in this
Estonia - Finland - France - Germany - Netherlands - Poland - Portugal -
Spain - Sweden - Switzerland
Additionally, there are a few countries interested and people are working on
letting them participate, including:
Andorra - Austria - Belgium - Denmark - Liechtenstein - Luxembourg - Ukraine
- United Kingdom
Currently most chapters are working on laying contacts and getting a
structure off the ground. I have already participated a brainstorm session
in Cologne, and will give a lecture/workshop on WLM in Wroclaw, Poland and
Maarten will give a workshop in Berlin, both later this month. Do you need
some help in getting your thoughts together? Would you like us to
participate in a brainstorm session/workshop? Please let us know very soon,
and we can probably organize something.
In May we intend to organize a meeting in Berlin for representatives from
all organizations participating in this European contest. We are still
looking for funding to be able to fly in people that cannot afford it
themselves (please poke me if your chapter can help with that), and
Wikimedia Deutschland has generously offered to host us in Berlin.
They will organize there a developers meeting, and that would be an
excellent synergy for us since we could perhaps persuade some people there
to write tools useful for WLM! I would like some input from you on this
meeting, but more information about that in a seperate email.
Short summaries as I am aware (happy to be corrected and see additional
information) about the participating countries:
* Estonia - Decided recently to participate. Need some thinking about the
Freedom of Panorama, but 5 volunteers are enthusiast. Status of lists and
* Finland - Have the data available for the 2000-3000 monuments, no lists
* France - started off as one of the first countries with some 43000
monuments. There is a structure for the lists, all lists are not there yet.
Chapter is supportive (?)
* Germany - Problematic with their 700.000 monuments and no central
authority registering them. Volunteers are working to get the data bit by
bit, and might take quite some effort. Project set up, seems to be moving.
Chapter is organizing workshops to get volunteers involved.
* Netherlands - structure and lists is already there from last year. Many
monuments have already photos, work for NL starts later this year.
* Poland - Chapter is enthusiast, need to get more volunteers. Some 60000
monuments, and there is some list structure. Unclear how much work to be
* Portugal - the 4000-5000 monuments are already structured in lists on the
* Spain - volunteers from both Wikimedia España and Associació Amical
Viquipèdia are involved in organizing the list structures in several
language Wikipedia's about Spain and Andorra. (13000 monuments)
* Sweden - situation unclear.
* Switzerland - 8300 monuments, available in structured lists.
I realize this probably contains errors, so please correct me!
Unfortunately Italy will not participate because of issues with Italian
copyright law regarding cultural heritage :(
Looking forward to keep working on this and your replies (short reports on
how things are going in your country and what problems you face would be
Lodewijk and Maarten