WikiLovesMonuments November 2011

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Interior views case
by Vicenç Riullop 01 Dec '11

01 Dec '11

In early mailings we talked about possible problems taking photos in private properties. Recently we have dealed with a real case. One of the awarded photos selected in first instance for local prize of Catalonia was an interior view of Casa Batlló. A jury member realized that it could be problematic without the consent of the propietary. He contacted Casa Batlló S.L., a private company that manages the building, and he was informed that all visitors are awarded about taking photos in the interior for commercial purposes [1]. They were willing to cooperate offering to sign an agreement for using the image on Commons and WLM website but not by third parts. Although such agreement is only binding for the photographer, we can not accept it as a free image. Such case is explained on Commons [2]. In brief, the image is accepted on Commons as the work is not copyrighted and it is up to the photographer to follow private rules of the propietary. The local comitee and jury decided to do not accept this image for the contest as we warned on the website about taking photos in private properties. We could not take any risk and we could not compromise our sponsor. The author has been informed and he understands the decision as he was not aware at all, unfortunatly, of the commercial use condition of the license. I have added a warning note on the related category at Commons [3]. Just to note that two images from this category, by other authors, are among the 343 ones selected in first round for Art Nouveau prize. [1] http://www.casabatllo.es/en/corporate/brand/image-rights/ [2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Image_casebook#Museum_and_interio… [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Interior_of_Casa_Batll%C3%B3 Vicenç

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tools, the next version
by Andre Koopal 28 Nov '11

28 Nov '11

Hi, Reading Odder's etherpad reminded me I still wanted to send this mail. Before and during WLM a lot of tools has been written again, the api was well written and there are some other things. However, there is still a big part missing, and that is a proper user interface (UI). You have all kind of search options, but the average user doesn't want to change urls to do that. So I think one of the things we should aim for next year is to get a proper UI implemented. Something to put on the agenda for coming thursday? Regards, Andre

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the long awaited organizational survey - please everybody fill in!
by Lodewijk 28 Nov '11

28 Nov '11

Hi all, once upon a time, we promised that there would be an extensive survey asking for your feedback regarding the organizing of Wiki Loves Monuments. The time is now! Please find it on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dEVnT250QUxnY… . It is quite long (and thorough) however, so take your time for it. I sincerely hope someone from each country will fill it in, but also that multiple people from many countries will fill it in. It is not necessary you were an organizer, but it would be nice if you were involved in /some/ way. Please limit your answer length so the answers are still analyzable. Long replies fit best on this mailing list. Please fill in before coming Monday. I know it is a short time period, but I would like to be able to analyze the feedback before our meeting next week. Thanks a lot, Lodewijk

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WLM evaluation and 2012
by Lodewijk 28 Nov '11

28 Nov '11

Dear all, I was pointed out recently that the evaluation of next week wasn't entirely known to everybody, so let me try to make it up to you. I was under the impression we already discussed it - but it seems I have mixed up some discussions and lists. My apologies. As already decided many months ago, we would organize a survey (which I sent you an email about yesterday - we have already 15 replies, thanks for those!) and a real life evaluation meeting. As you may understand, we didn't aim for a similar size and participation like the Berlin meeting this spring, but a rather smaller meeting with 10-15 people. We were luckily able to connect it to the 'GLAM'-Camp that is being organized in Amsterdam 2-4 December, and will be sharing some facilities. We reserved 1 December for this evaluation meeting. The goals will be aimed towards the future - to guarantuee the best possible lessons and documentation. We will try to discuss and document the best ways to organize Wiki Loves Monuments or a similar event, the lessons we all learned and to draft out some kind of documentation to make organizing also easier a next time. We will also do a little bit of brainstorming about possible organization in 2012, but the focus will be with lessons, discussion and documentation. In my perfect world (and whether that will be a real world will have to be determined) we will organize Wiki Loves Monuments again in 2012. In my perfect world, the scope would be broadened beyond Europe that year. I am myself willing to make some commitment to organizing WLM in 2012 on an international level again, if there are enough other people willing to participate. I have the feeling that material needs (funding etc) will not be the bottle neck considering the positive reactions we have received so far. Wikimedia Nederland has at least already reserved some rough budget to make an international organization again possible. Hopefully more about that after the evaluation meeting. If you are interested in helping the international organization however, I do hope you will fill in the survey, and identify that offer as well. That is the easiest way of collecting that information. So being practical: The evaluation meeting will be in the Public Library of Amsterdam on December 1st. It will be a one day meeting, with some 10-15 people. The exact agenda is still to be set - we will probably base it somewhat on the outcomes of the survey and a definitive agenda will therefore not be available very eary unfortunately. Tomasz has been trying to collect as many issues, topics and ideas as possible for this meeting on this etherpad: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/WLM-2011-summary . You're very much welcomed to join in and give your suggestions. That also will help identify topics for the work meeting next Thursday in Amsterdam. Looking forward to a further fruitful cooperation, Lodewijk

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Update: Designing Wiki Loves Monuments calendars
by Nicole Ebber 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Thanks a lot, Charles. :) But I thought we should have the images take most of the page, not the calendar. What do the others think? Cheers Nicole On 21 November 2011 15:50, charles andres <charles.andres(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote: > > Here the files. Basically it remains only the calendar part :-D > > The files are 0.5cm bigger than the A3 format, like this the printer cut at > 0.5cm and avoid any white mark at the edge. > > The size of the calendar part has been adapt to the larger pictures we had. > > When you transform the svg in pdf, black background usually became white, at > least with inkscape, not a problem, easy to change in Adobe acrobat after. > > I have few free time in this end of year, all the lessons I give are > concentrated between now and Christmas, so I could miss a message on the > mailing list, but feel free to contact me by direct mail. > > The original file for the calendar part can be found here: > http://ebookbrowse.com/bi-monthly-calendar-2012-pdf-d125676737 > > > Charles > > ___________________________________________________________ > Charles ANDRES, Membre du Comité > Wikimedia CH - Association pour l'avancement des connaissances libres > > Skype: charles.andres.wmch > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : wikilovesmonuments-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org > [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] De la part de Nicole > Ebber > Envoyé : lundi, 21. novembre 2011 14:45 > À : Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition > Objet : Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Update: Designing Wiki Loves Monuments > calendars > > Charles, that would be awesome!! > > Cheers, > Nicole > > On 21 November 2011 14:19, charles andres <charles.andres(a)wikimedia.ch> > wrote: >> Hum.... I've done one for the swiss contest, if it is useful I can send > the >> individual month pages in svg without the pictures... >> >> It is a simple one, but all the printing details have been review by a >> professional >> >> Cheers >> >> Cahrles >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Charles ANDRES, Membre du Comité >> Wikimedia CH - Association pour l'avancement des connaissances libres >> >> Skype: charles.andres.wmch >> IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch >> >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : wikilovesmonuments-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] De la part de > Nicole >> Ebber >> Envoyé : lundi, 21. novembre 2011 13:05 >> À : Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition >> Objet : [Wiki Loves Monuments] Update: Designing Wiki Loves Monuments >> calendars >> >> Dear all, >> >> we are still discussing about the layout of the WLM calendar. >> >> Current status is: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/WLM-calendar >> >> I have been talking to some friends about the design of the calendars. >> Two things: >> >> 1. The size of the images: Is the designer allowed to cut / crop the > images >> to make them fit into the design? Of course, within reasonable margins, > with >> commons sense. I have attached an example of the lol porn calendar, which > I >> find quite nice. But since we have different formats and sizes of images >> (imagine one image like this on the page: >> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/St_petersburg_4.jpg >> /600px-St_petersburg_4.jpg), >> it would anyway be difficult to have all pages look equally nice. >> >> 2. Do we really want these blank fields for handwritten notes? In my >> opinion, the calendar should be more like an art calendar than a > "practical" >> thing. Everyone carries around their calendars in their pockets, you don't >> need to "disrupt" the well and cleanly designed calendar by writing some >> stuff on it. The value of the calendar lies in the images, not in the >> calendar feature. >> >> What do you think? Add your comments to the etherpad, please. >> >> Best, >> Nicole >> >> -- >> Nicole Ebber >> Projektmanagerin >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >> Eisenacher Straße 2 >> 10777 Berlin >> >> Tel.: +49 30 219158260 >> http://wikimedia.de >> >> Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales >> Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition: >> http://wikipedia.de/wke/. >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. >> V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >> unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt > für >> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > > > -- > Nicole Ebber > Projektmanagerin > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Eisenacher Straße 2 > 10777 Berlin > > Tel.: +49 30 219158260 > http://wikimedia.de > > Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales > Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition: > http://wikipedia.de/wke/. > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. > V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts > Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig > anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, > Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > -- Nicole Ebber Projektmanagerin Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Eisenacher Straße 2 10777 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 219158260 http://wikimedia.de Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition: http://wikipedia.de/wke/. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Update: Designing Wiki Loves Monuments calendars
by Nicole Ebber 21 Nov '11

21 Nov '11

Dear all, we are still discussing about the layout of the WLM calendar. Current status is: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/WLM-calendar I have been talking to some friends about the design of the calendars. Two things: 1. The size of the images: Is the designer allowed to cut / crop the images to make them fit into the design? Of course, within reasonable margins, with commons sense. I have attached an example of the lol porn calendar, which I find quite nice. But since we have different formats and sizes of images (imagine one image like this on the page: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/St_petersburg_4.jp…), it would anyway be difficult to have all pages look equally nice. 2. Do we really want these blank fields for handwritten notes? In my opinion, the calendar should be more like an art calendar than a "practical" thing. Everyone carries around their calendars in their pockets, you don't need to "disrupt" the well and cleanly designed calendar by writing some stuff on it. The value of the calendar lies in the images, not in the calendar feature. What do you think? Add your comments to the etherpad, please. Best, Nicole -- Nicole Ebber Projektmanagerin Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Eisenacher Straße 2 10777 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 219158260 http://wikimedia.de Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition: http://wikipedia.de/wke/. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Survey
by Lodewijk 21 Nov '11

21 Nov '11

Hi all, Please find attached the data table of the Wiki Loves Monuments participants survey. 790 replies are included, but i have removed some of the most obvious duplicates. I look forward to people turning this into something exciting! I would love some statistics both on country and international level, both country of participation and where they live. Also it would be nice if every local team could take a look into the specific suggestions in their country. Best, Lodewijk

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Update: Designing Wiki Loves Monuments calendars
by Nicole Ebber 21 Nov '11

21 Nov '11

Charles, that would be awesome!! Cheers, Nicole On 21 November 2011 14:19, charles andres <charles.andres(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote: > Hum.... I've done one for the swiss contest, if it is useful I can send the > individual month pages in svg without the pictures... > > It is a simple one, but all the printing details have been review by a > professional > > Cheers > > Cahrles > ___________________________________________________________ > Charles ANDRES, Membre du Comité > Wikimedia CH - Association pour l'avancement des connaissances libres > > Skype: charles.andres.wmch > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : wikilovesmonuments-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org > [mailto:wikilovesmonuments-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] De la part de Nicole > Ebber > Envoyé : lundi, 21. novembre 2011 13:05 > À : Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition > Objet : [Wiki Loves Monuments] Update: Designing Wiki Loves Monuments > calendars > > Dear all, > > we are still discussing about the layout of the WLM calendar. > > Current status is: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/WLM-calendar > > I have been talking to some friends about the design of the calendars. > Two things: > > 1. The size of the images: Is the designer allowed to cut / crop the images > to make them fit into the design? Of course, within reasonable margins, with > commons sense. I have attached an example of the lol porn calendar, which I > find quite nice. But since we have different formats and sizes of images > (imagine one image like this on the page: > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/St_petersburg_4.jpg > /600px-St_petersburg_4.jpg), > it would anyway be difficult to have all pages look equally nice. > > 2. Do we really want these blank fields for handwritten notes? In my > opinion, the calendar should be more like an art calendar than a "practical" > thing. Everyone carries around their calendars in their pockets, you don't > need to "disrupt" the well and cleanly designed calendar by writing some > stuff on it. The value of the calendar lies in the images, not in the > calendar feature. > > What do you think? Add your comments to the etherpad, please. > > Best, > Nicole > > -- > Nicole Ebber > Projektmanagerin > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Eisenacher Straße 2 > 10777 Berlin > > Tel.: +49 30 219158260 > http://wikimedia.de > > Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales > Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition: > http://wikipedia.de/wke/. > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. > V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > -- Nicole Ebber Projektmanagerin Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Eisenacher Straße 2 10777 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 219158260 http://wikimedia.de Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition: http://wikipedia.de/wke/. Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Results for Switzerland
by Lodewijk 18 Nov '11

18 Nov '11

Hi Charles, Thank you. Like requested before on this list, I hope you will send a blog post suitable for wikilovesmonuments.eu (formatted like the other examples sent on this list) so that we can publish it there, too! Best regards, Lodewijk No dia 18 de Novembro de 2011 10:31, charles andres < charles.andres(a)wikimedia.ch> escreveu: > Dear all, **** > > The Swiss results are now published.**** > > ** ** > > http://wikilovesmonuments.ch/results.php**** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > ** ** > > Charles**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ___________________________________________________________ > Charles ANDRES, Membre du Comité > Wikimedia CH <http://www.wikimedia.ch>- Association pour l'avancement des > connaissances libres > > Skype: charles.andres.wmch > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >

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Vote for the best Wiki Loves Monuments Art Nouveau photos!!!
by David Haskiya 18 Nov '11

18 Nov '11

Dear Wikipedians, As part of Europeana's special Art Nouveau competitions we just (re-)published 360 of the best Art Nouveau photos on the Europeana Flickr account. This means we've reduced the nearly 3000 photos categorized for the Art Nouveau competition by the Wiki community. The images, divided into sets, can be found here, http://www.flickr.com/photos/europeanaimages2/collections/72157628008148 113/ The idea is then that until December 5th people will be able to "vote" for their favourites. Actually, it's using the Flickr favourite function that counts as a vote. There are no really strict rules to the voting, just favourite the ones you like and as many as you like and we'll count the votes. Based on the popular vote and selection by the Europeana internal work group and jury we'll then make a special Wiki Loves Art Nouveau exhibition on the Europeana exhibitions platform(at http://exhibitions.europeana.eu/exhibits/browse?tags=europeana-en ) . The exhibition will encompass about 50-100 photos with the winner of the Art Nouveau competition showcased especially. We would be really happy and grateful if you could all help in spreading the word about the popular vote on Flickr on your blogs, through your Twitter accounts and mailing lists. The Europeana blog post announcing this can be found at http://blog.europeana.eu/ and please feel free to translate it or link back to it. Best regards, David --- David Haskiya Product Developer www.europeana.eu Phone: +31 (0)70 3140 696 Mobile: +31 (0)64 217 2542 Email: david.haskiya(a)kb.nl <mailto:david.haskiya@kb.nl> Skype: davidhaskiya

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