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Von: dr.cueppers.gmbh(a)arcor.de
An: wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Datum: 03.09.2012 11:02
Betreff: Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata, ISO and chembox
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> ----- Original Nachricht ----
> Von: Nadja Kutz <nadja(a)daytar.de>
> An: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project."
> <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Datum: 31.08.2012 11:37
> Betreff: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata, ISO and chembox
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Is there any news on the thoughts about including ISO standards into
> > wikidata?
> >
> > in particular it would be nice to here someone from wikidata comment on
> > this:
> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata/576
> > ?
> >
> > this may also influence things like the chembox etc.:
> >
> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata/784
> >
> > when will there be wikidata access for the chembox ?
>
> I must complement my protrudingly quoted text:
>
> obviously it is really planned to make available complete info-boxes in
> Wikidata (I did not know this with writing my text). However, this is - like
> everything what will be stored in Wikidata only an offer: No WP must use
> this and such an info-box is offered ' in an empty state', i. e. with all
> parameter-names in the left fissure but without any parameter value.
>
> For instance, the info-box ' chemical element ' s required in every WP about
> 100 times i (so much as there are articles to chemical elements, much more
> elements don't exist). Whether any WP uses this Wikidata-info box or not is
> complete regardless of the question, whether this WP uses the values of
> this parameters stored in wikidata or don't use them. The values are stored
> in Wikidata on an other place, so that it is completely regardless of this
> 'empty info box-structure', what just means, that these values are available
> also, if the info box is not taken over from Wikidata and has an other
> structure.
>
> Dr.cueppers
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Additional:
For every information Wikidata offers not only one storage space: There can be stored several info-boxes side by side from which can any user pick out the suitably appearing one. And if to an value would be found more than one reference: Every such value can be stored in Wikidata side by side (each with the suitable reference).
With this method (parallel stored values) are also prevented undesirable entries, if it woud be provided, that stored data cannot be overwritten or deleted by users. So will exist - possibly wrong and right - data side by side and everybody selects itself what seems to him right. For wrongly held data he can announce on the accompanying talk-pagee. Then it will not last long until the wrong data are extinguished by a Wikidata-Admin.
I hope that this way of thinking is identical to that of the Wikidata architects.
dr.cueppers
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----- Original Nachricht ----
Von: Nadja Kutz <nadja(a)daytar.de>
An: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Datum: 31.08.2012 11:37
Betreff: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata, ISO and chembox
> Hello
>
> Is there any news on the thoughts about including ISO standards into
> wikidata?
>
> in particular it would be nice to here someone from wikidata comment on
> this:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata/576
> ?
>
> this may also influence things like the chembox etc.:
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata/784
>
> when will there be wikidata access for the chembox ?
I must complement my protrudingly quoted text:
obviously it is really planned to make available complete info-boxes in Wikidata (I did not know this with writing my text). However, this is - like everything what will be stored in Wikidata only an offer: No WP must use this and such an info-box is offered ' in an empty state', i. e. with all parameter-names in the left fissure but without any parameter value.
For instance, the info-box ' chemical element ' s required in every WP about 100 times i (so much as there are articles to chemical elements, much more elements don't exist). Whether any WP uses this Wikidata-info box or not is complete regardless of the question, whether this WP uses the values of this parameters stored in wikidata or don't use them. The values are stored in Wikidata on an other place, so that it is completely regardless of this 'empty info box-structure', what just means, that these values are available also, if the info box is not taken over from Wikidata and has an other structure.
Dr.cueppers
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Heya folks :)
Here's your summary on what's been happening in Wikidata land over the
last 7 days.
Fancy a wiki version of this? Check
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2012_08_31
= Development =
* Worked on version 2 of generic site handling in MediaWiki
incorporating feedback from wikitech and mediawiki.org, as well as
updating the WIkibase code to match
* Rewrote SQLStore to accommodate phase 2 and phase 3 of Wikidata
* Added maintenance script for rebuilding the store data
* Implemented action column in user interface. All buttons for
user-interaction are now aligned on the right side (for
ltr-languages).
* The language-code is now shown in a separate column in the site-links table
* Started implementing sorting for site-link table columns
* Lots of cleanup in JavaScript code
* Edit conflict detection in a simple form is in place
* Some minor changes to the API to support conflict detection, mostly
“lastrevid” and “baserevid”
* The configurable URL argument “usekeys” was removed. (Please check
if your bots are still working.)
* The special page “ItemByLabel” is about to be revitalized as a full
“ItemDisambiguation” page
See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint
for what we’re working on next.
You can follow our commits here:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension…
and view the subset awaiting review here:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions…
= Discussions/Press =
* http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Preventing_unwanted_edits
= Events =
see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events
* Campus Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5mWN8BooE)
* FrOSCon
* right now: WikiCon
* upcoming: State of the Map
* upcoming: office hours on IRC
= Other Noteworthy Stuff =
* Please vote for our SXSW panel at
http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/vote/3710. Voting ends today.
= Open Tasks for You =
* for possible coding tasks check
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer&keywords…
* check the needs-input box on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata
and see where you can give feedback
Anything to add? Please share! :)
Cheers
Lydia
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I've just updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview#Mediawiki_and_techni…
. Sorry for the spam, but you really should take a moment to skim and
see whether there are lists there you should join. I especially want to
single out:
design
mediawiki-api-announce
mediawiki-i18n -- localisation and internationalisation
labs-l -- for when you have a question or request re Wikimedia Labs
analytics
wikitext-l -- the new Visual Editor & parser
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It would be great if the Wikidata team participated in this, especially
those trying to build their code review expertise!
Thanks,
Sumana
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] organize a bug triage
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:26:00 -0400
From: Sumana Harihareswara <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org>
Organization: Wikimedia Foundation
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
CC: matanya <matanya(a)moses.co.il>, Rusty Burchfield
<gicodewarrior(a)gmail.com>
On 08/22/2012 03:42 AM, matanya wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I have started an etherpad here:
>
> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/BugTriage-2012-09
>
> Please help improve and comment on date/time/bugs choosen
>
> matanya
Thanks for setting this up, Matanya! I've publicized this 5 September
patch triage to follow a bit more of
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_Management/Meeting_prep .
Since this is a patch review triage, you might be interested in using
Rusty Burchfield's (gicode) automated testing of patches for a little
more information (code at https://github.com/GICodeWarrior/patch-tester
, 16 August run at
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah_71HHl7qa7dGtvSms3TGpHQU9NU2…
, explanation at
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2011-November/056273.html )
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Hi!
After some development, I think there's a version of pywikidata which works
well enough to work with. It is still missing some features; however,
creating items, getting them by id, and saving them is covered.
You can find it here
(https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata)<https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata>.
The file example.py<https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata/blob/master/example.py>includes
some examples of how it works.
Finally, in case you find bugs you're welcome to report
them<https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata/issues>,
even more to send a pull request ;). Pending things include handling
permission errors (which some time ago I couldn't trigger, I'll try now),
or getting items by interwiki.
Thanks a lot, and sorry for my English!
Joan Creus
Enjoy :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXQ3GC7O2
Technology and Infrastructure V: Data will be uploaded ASAP and we're
sending the files to Ashburn data center to get them on to Wikimedia
Commons soon.
Cheers,
Katie
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Berlin, tax number 27/681/51985.
Heya folks :)
Data in Wikidata needs to be reliable. At the same time the project
needs to be as open as possible to achieve its goal. We already have a
few ideas but I am sure so do you. I started a page for brainstorming
about measures we can take to discourage unwanted edits (or making it
easy to spot them) while at the same time not giving up on the
openness of the project. Please add your ideas to
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Preventing_unwanted_edits
Cheers
Lydia
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www.wikimedia.de
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.