On 02.11.2012 08:47, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Jérémie Roquet
<arkanosis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Some people start worrying about the fact that updates to wikidata
> items would not show up as changes of the Wikipedia articles that use
> them in their Wikipedia watchlists.
Not to worry, we have that covered.
> Any idea of what can be done to allow regular
Wikipedians to follow
> the changes in Wikidata that affect the articles they are watching
> without having to maintain and check an additional watchlist on an
> other wiki?
Yes. If item Q1234 is the item for page Foo on your wiki, changes to Q1234 will
show up on your wiki as if they had been done on page Foo. You can see them on
recentchanges, your watchlist, etc. You can already play with that on the test
wikis, wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de and wikidata-test-client.wikimedia.de.
They do however not (yet) show up in the page history, see below.
Yes You can check this bug for example for status
updates on that:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40358
Actually, no. That is about page history, not about changes/watchlists. It'S a
bit confusing, but quite important to know that mediawiki treats these quite
differently.
* The page history is permanent and contains all the revisions to a page.
* Recentchanges (and derived views like watchlists, relatedchanges, etc) contain
all kinds of changes (edits, moves, deletions, etc) and are only kept for about
30 days.
Also, some
people are used to follow changes to articles in a given
category (on the French Wikipedia, we have thematic portals on every
single article, so many people use the categories associated with the
portals to follow the recent changes instead of their own watchlists).
Will they still be able to do that if some content is moved to Wikidata?
Can you please add a note about that to the above bug so we can keep
this in mind? Thanks!
Hm... as I said, it's thw wrong ticket for that, and I can't offhand find the
correct one. Maybe Katie knows.
But anyway - was was not aware thta it is at all possible to watch changes in a
category - or doe they rather use the portal page's relatedchanges feed? That
should just work. Try it on the test wiki.
> Amir Elisha Aharoni asked pretty much the same
question back in August
> in a thread entitled “watching Wikidata changes that affect my wiki”.
> He suggested that “The most practical way to solve this is to show
> that some piece of data that affects a Wikipedia article in the
> watchlist, as if it is a change in the article itself.” but didn't get
> any answer on that point.
edi
I seem to remember that I replied to him about that. The plan to inject changes
into the local recentchanges feed (and thus watchlist, relatedchanges, etc) was
made at the Hackathon in Berlin in June. I *thought* we had that written down
somewhere...
-- daniel
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Daniel Kinzler, Softwarearchitekt
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