Hey,
So I heard on another mailing list that Commons is getting
its own installation of Wikibase along with using Wikidata?
Is this true, and if so, where might I find more information
about it?
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
Computer Specialist
Alizee Pathology
Hey folks,
We are working on re-vamping a lot of the underlying code for the user
interface at the moment. These changes are the first major steps for
the new user interface. They are necessary to allow editing all
sitelinks or label/description/alsiases at once for example.
Unfortunately some gadgets will need to be adapted to these changes.
Specifically it is the introduction of sitelinkview and aliasview.
We are aware of the following gadgets that will need to be adapted but
those might not be all:
MediaWiki:Gadget-DraggableSitelinks.js
MediaWiki:Gadget-KeyShortcuts.js
MediaWiki:Gadget-MainLangFirst.js
MediaWiki:Gadget-Move.js
MediaWiki:Gadget-Preview.js
MediaWiki:Gadget-SimpleTransliterate.js
The new code is live on test.wikidata.org for you to test your gadgets
against. The changes will go live on wikidata.org on Tuesday.
Sorry for the breaking change. I hope the new UI will be worth it for
you though :)
Cheers
Lydia
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Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
10963 Berlin
www.wikimedia.de
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Hi,
There are plenty of ways in which Wikidata and VisualEditor could be
integrated. Let me ask about the following one:
Given: Let's imagine that the venerable {{Infobox settlement}} template is
fully adapted for pulling the data from Wikidata. All the relevant data
about the city of Bratislava is entered into its item page on wikidata.org,
and in the source of the article [[Bratislava]] you only need to say
{{Infobox settlement}} without any parameters.
The people of Bratislava elect a new mayor, and I want to write it in the
article. I come to the article [[Bratislava]] and press edit. I click the
infobox.
What happens?
As far as I know, no work has been done in this area; PLEASE CORRECT ME if
I'm wrong.
My Super-Dream scenario is to be able to edit the Mayor's name write there
in the infobox, but I realize that it might be complicated.
My Dream scenario is that the VE understands that the data is pulled from
Wikidata and shows a dialog that is similar to the current template
parameters. I see the old mayor's name in that dialog, I write the new
mayor's name, and the new value is stored in Wikidata. Of course, it must
be taken into account that the name is likely not just a string, but a
label of the Wikidata item.
My acceptable-but-suboptimal scenario is taking the user to
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6850543 . This is probably a useful workflow
for the tech-savvy editors, but it's suboptimal for a casual editor. I'll
go as far as saying that for a casual editor it may be (relatively) more
comfortable to edit parameters in a MediaWiki template ("|mayor =[[Milan
Ftáčnik]]") than to go to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6850543 and find
the value.
Does anybody have any more ideas about it? Am I late to the party and this
has already been discussed and designed and I missed it? Please enlighten
me :)
Thanks!
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Hey folks :)
We're starting to pick up speed with structured data support for
Commons now. It'd be great to have you all on board for this. Planning
documents are linked below. I hope to see many of you interested in
multimedia at the office hour on September 3rd.
Cheers
Lydia
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Fabrice Florin <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:48 AM
Subject: Structured Data on Commons
To: Multimedia Mailing List <multimedia(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Greetings!
We invite you to join a discussion about Structured Data on Commons,
to help us plan our next steps for this project.
The Structured Data initiative proposes to store and retrieve
information for media files in machine-readable data on Wikimedia
Commons, using Wikidata tools and practices, as described on our new
project page (1).
The purpose of this project is to make it easier for users to read and
write file information, and to enable developers to build better tools
to view, search, edit, curate and use media files. To that end, we
propose to investigate this opportunity together through community
discussions and small experiments. If these initial tests are
successful, we would develop new tools and practices for structured
data, then work with our communities to gradually migrate unstructured
data into a machine-readable format over time.
The Multimedia team and the Wikidata team are starting to plan this
project together, in collaboration with many community volunteers
active on Wikimedia Commons and other wikis. We had a truly inspiring
roundtable discussion about Structured Data at Wikimania a few weeks
ago, to define a first proposal together (2).
We would now like to extend this discussion to include more community
members that might benefit from this initiative. Please take a moment
to read the project overview on Commons, then let us know what you
think, by answering some of the questions on its talk page (3).
We also invite you to join a Structured Data Q&A on Wednesday
September 3 at 19:00 UTC, so we can discuss some of the details live
in this IRC office hours chat. Please RSVP if you plan to attend (4).
Lastly, we propose to form small workgroups to investigate workflows,
data structure, research, platform, features, migration and other open
issues. If you are interested in contributing to one of these
workgroups, we invite you to sign up on directly on our hub page (5)
-- and help start a sub-page for your workgroup.
We look forward to some productive discussions with you in coming
weeks. In previous roundtables, many of you told us this is the most
important contribution that our team can make to support multimedia in
coming years. We heard you loud and clear and are happy to devote more
resources to bring it to life, with your help.
We are honored to be working with the Wikidata team and talented
community members like you to take on this challenge, improve our
infrastructure and provide a better experience for all our users.
Onward!
Fabrice — for the Structured Data team
(1) Structured Data Hub on Commons:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data
(2) Structured Data Slides:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Structured_Data_-_Slides.pdf
(3) Structured Data Talk Page:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data
(4) Structured Data Q&A (IRC chat on Sep. 3):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data#Discussions
(5) Structured Data Workgroups:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data#Workgroups
_______________________________
Fabrice Florin
Product Manager, Multimedia
Wikimedia Foundation
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
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Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
Product Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
10963 Berlin
www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Greetings,
Please note that the time of the IRC chat was changed to 18:00 (UTC)
i.e. one hour earlier than previously announced. (
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=next&oldid=132667852 )
You can see how it converts to your timezone using this tool:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Structured+Data+IR…
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Fabrice Florin <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> We invite you to join a discussion about Structured Data on Commons, to help
> us plan our next steps for this project.
>
> The Structured Data initiative proposes to store and retrieve information
> for media files in machine-readable data on Wikimedia Commons, using
> Wikidata tools and practices, as described on our new project page (1).
>
> The purpose of this project is to make it easier for users to read and write
> file information, and to enable developers to build better tools to view,
> search, edit, curate and use media files. To that end, we propose to
> investigate this opportunity together through community discussions and
> small experiments. If these initial tests are successful, we would develop
> new tools and practices for structured data, then work with our communities
> to gradually migrate unstructured data into a machine-readable format over
> time.
>
> The Multimedia team and the Wikidata team are starting to plan this project
> together, in collaboration with many community volunteers active on
> Wikimedia Commons and other wikis. We had a truly inspiring roundtable
> discussion about Structured Data at Wikimania a few weeks ago, to define a
> first proposal together (2).
>
> We would now like to extend this discussion to include more community
> members that might benefit from this initiative. Please take a moment to
> read the project overview on Commons, then let us know what you think, by
> answering some of the questions on its talk page (3).
>
> We also invite you to join a Structured Data Q&A on Wednesday September 3 at
> 19:00 UTC, so we can discuss some of the details live in this IRC office
> hours chat. Please RSVP if you plan to attend (4).
>
> Lastly, we propose to form small workgroups to investigate workflows, data
> structure, research, platform, features, migration and other open issues. If
> you are interested in contributing to one of these workgroups, we invite you
> to sign up on directly on our hub page (5) -- and help start a sub-page for
> your workgroup.
>
> We look forward to some productive discussions with you in coming weeks. In
> previous roundtables, many of you told us this is the most important
> contribution that our team can make to support multimedia in coming years.
> We heard you loud and clear and are happy to devote more resources to bring
> it to life, with your help.
>
> We are honored to be working with the Wikidata team and talented community
> members like you to take on this challenge, improve our infrastructure and
> provide a better experience for all our users.
>
> Onward!
>
>
> Fabrice — for the Structured Data team
>
>
> (1) Structured Data Hub on Commons:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data
>
> (2) Structured Data Slides:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Structured_Data_-_Slides.pdf
>
> (3) Structured Data Talk Page:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data
>
> (4) Structured Data Q&A (IRC chat on Sep. 3):
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data#Discussions
>
> (5) Structured Data Workgroups:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data#Workgroups
>
>
> _______________________________
>
> Fabrice Florin
> Product Manager, Multimedia
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
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