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Re: [Wikidata-l] [Toolserver-l] Welcome: wikidata
by DaB. 30 Oct '12

30 Oct '12

Hello again, [crosspost to wikidata-l] At Tuesday 30 October 2012 17:16:45 DaB. wrote: > Hello all, > > wikidata has made it on the toolserver today. The database is called > "wikidatawiki_p" (don't ask me…) and its is home on s3. Because I guessed > that many joins to it will happen in future, I created also copies on all > clusters with the exception of s6 and s7 (will happen later); so you can > join it in the same way as commons. I found the following additional useful tables in the wikidata-database and created views for them. If I missed something, please tell me. I also interested in an URL to the wikidata-table-documentation. *site_identifiers *sites *wb_changes *wb_id_counters *wb_items_per_site *wb_terms Sincerely, DaB. -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 2B255885

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[Wikidata-l] Which language codes should be added as labels for wikis having variants
by Merlissimo 27 Oct '12

27 Oct '12

I have added some additional code to my bot to create more localized labels. Simple Example: My bot creates an item containing a german (de) label that contains the letter "ß". Then my bot additional creates a label for "de-ch" having this letter replaced by "ss". What i am not sure about is how to handle wikis having language variants. Lets take <http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%…> as example page. What my bot know is: * srwiki page title is "Википедија" * label in "sr-ec" is "Википедија" * label in "sr-el" is "Vikipedija" * srwiki has local language code "sr" and displays variant sr-ec by default So which labels should i add to wikidata for an item linking this srwiki page? Only sr-ec and sr-el? Or should i additionally add a label using code sr having the same content as sr-ec? Merlissimo P.S.: If different wikis have the same language code like enwiki and simplewiki (and specieswiki when enabled) my algorithm is not deterministic in choosing a normalized title as label. The normalized titles of the other wikis having the same language code are added as aliases. I hope that is ok.

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #29
by Lydia Pintscher 26 Oct '12

26 Oct '12

Heya folks :) Here's this week's summary of what happened around Wikidata. The wiki version is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2012_10_26 = Development = * Content Handler is now live on Wikipedia and sister sites * Prefix term search for entities * Fixed bugs that popped up after Content Handler merge * API function wbsearchentities * Discussed JavaScript refactoring * Refactored some JavaScript stuff (like options handling) * Worked on JavaScript refactoring regarding the API * Implemented entity selector jQuery widget * Continued deployment work with WMF * Poked at Vagrant * Create puppet scripts for setting up Wikibase instances * New release of Pywikidata: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2012-October/001134.html See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint for what we’re working on next. You can follow our commits at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension… and view the subset awaiting review at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions…. = Discussions/Press = * Discussions around bots on the mailing list = Events = see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events * Bootstrapping Awesome * SMWCon = Other Noteworthy Stuff = * Jenkins test results are now online: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Wikibase/ (we’re still investigating why quite some of them are failing atm) * Nice video about the why and how of Open Data: http://vimeo.com/21711338 = Open Tasks for You = * Main Page draft is taking shape but you can still help out with it: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Main_Page_draft * Hack on one of these: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer%2C%20&ke… Anything to add? Please share! :) Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] New release of Pywikidata: feature requests?
by Snaevar 26 Oct '12

26 Oct '12

> Any feature requests? Yes, I can think of several ones. To begin with, I would like a feature where the bot operator only needs to give the bot information on a wikipedia page. The bot would then fetch the interwiki links from that page and add them as sitelinks to wikidata. I am thinking of an command like this one: script.py -site:Hermony Granger -lang:fr Also, I have the same questions as Merlissimo has allready raised on the "features needed by langlink bots" thread. Cheers, Snaevar ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Creus Sent: 10/24/12 05:08 PM To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Subject: [Wikidata-l] New release of Pywikidata: feature requests? Hi all, I've released a new version of Pywikidata @ https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata (not really a release, since there is no version numbering; I should begin, maybe...).

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[Wikidata-l] New release of Pywikidata: feature requests?
by Joan Creus 26 Oct '12

26 Oct '12

Hi all, I've released a new version of Pywikidata @ https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata (not really a release, since there is no version numbering; I should begin, maybe...). New features include: - Changes pushed to the server are only the properties which have changed. This means that it is really faster, and it is the way it should be (according to the spec). - 'uselang' is no longer accepted, per spec. - Bot flag allowed. Right now there's some more stuff left to do (including adapting to changes to the API, and adding the claim system [still beta]), but is there any feature request of something which would be useful for bots? In regards to Pywikipediabot integration I think someone is working on it (thanks!); yet I think it would be better to wait. Pywikipedia is a mature project and Pywikidata is still evolving constantly (mostly due to API changes, which break it). So I'd wait until Pywikidata has matured too, and Wikidata is deployed to WMF wikis. By the way, pull requests will be gladly accepted :). Joan Creus (joancreus@freenode, Joancreus@wikipedia)

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[Wikidata-l] JSON representation
by Andreas Schultz 25 Oct '12

25 Oct '12

Hi all, I have a question or rather proposal regarding the JSON representation [1]. The "Geo" example on the JSON page[1] implies that there won't be a fixed representation for data types. Instead of the "value" key that all the other examples use, the Geo example uses "longitude" and "latitude". Wouldn't a representation like the following be more appropriate? "value": { "latitude" : 32.233, "longitude" : -2.233, } That is, if "snaktype": "value", then there has to be a "value" key with a data type specific value object. Something that imho would also be useful, is a way to specify the data type - this could be optional. For the Geo example something like the following would make sense: "datatype": "geo" Without such a definition, a consumer would have to derive the data type from the keys and/or the lexical representation of the values, which would usually be a tough task. Cheers, Andreas 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Phase_2_JSON -- Telefon/Phone +49 6441 87087-32 · Telefax/Fax +49 6441 87087-17 E-Mail a.schultz(a)mes-semantics.com · Web http://mes-semantics.com ________________________________________________________________ MediaEvent Services GmbH & Co. KG Berlin Office: Stendaler Straße 4 · 10559 Berlin · Germany Wetzlar Office: Charlotte-Bamberg-Str. 6 · 35578 Wetzlar · Germany Handelsregister/Commercial Register: Amtsgericht Wetzlar HRA 4015 USt-IdNr./VAT Reg.No. DE206509024 Komplementärin: MediaEvent Services Verwaltungs GmbH Handelsregister/Commercial Register: Amtsgericht Wetzlar HRB 5079 Geschäftsführer/Managing Director: Tim Ebert ________________________________________________________________

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[Wikidata-l] update from the Hebrew Wikipedia
by Amir E. Aharoni 25 Oct '12

25 Oct '12

Hi, Lydia mentioned in her summary a major discussion about Wikidata in the Hebrew Wikipedia. The discussion was in Hebrew of course, so I'll bring a little summary of it. Eleven people supported the installation of Wikidata. Nobody objected \o/ Despite the wide support, some issues and questions were raised: 1. How is the coordination with interwiki links bot operators progressing? Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything to articles that are already listed in the repository and have the correct links displayed? Will the bots be smart enough to update the repo in the transition period, when some Wikipedias have Wikidata and some don't? Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything with articles that have interwiki conflicts (multiple links, non-1-to-1 linking etc.)? 2. What are the numbers after the Q in the titles in the repo site? - I replied that they are just sequential identifiers without any additional meaning. Maybe it can be added to the FAQ. 3. Several people complained about instability in the links editing pages in the repo: They saw messages about network problems when they tried to edit links. I experienced this a couple of times, too. I also saw a complete crash with a "memory full" error once. 4. Somebody noticed that the testing sites don't support unified accounts (CentralAuth). The production system will, right? 5. Somebody complained that it's too easy to remove a link from a repo - clicking the "remove" link is enough. I mentioned it in a bug report: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40200 6. And this is probably the biggest issue: The workflow for adding an interlanguage link is cumbersome and in some cases the interface elements are undiscoverable. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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[Wikidata-l] Some questions
by Luca Martinelli 24 Oct '12

24 Oct '12

Hi there, I got a number of questions. Hope not to bother. 1) Has the testing of phase 1 already started on hu.wp? 2) Will phase 1 be also expanded to ns=/=0 (i.e. templates, categories, help pages...) and to other projects (i.e. Wikisource, Wikiquote...)? 3) When will be possible to test phase 2 on Wikidata-test-repo? 4) Is there already a script for testing the automatic upload of interlinks? I'd like to run some tests with my bot. Thanks in advance. -- Luca "Sannita" Martinelli http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Sannita

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[Wikidata-l] Fwd: Wikidata bug (or semi-bug ;)
by Amir Ladsgroup 20 Oct '12

20 Oct '12

Sumana says i forward this e-mail to wikidata-l. So i did it :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 03:18:57 +0330 Subject: Wikidata bug (or semi-bug ;) To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Hello I'm working on running PWB on wikidata and i want to do some edits via API so i did this: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/api.php?action=wbsetitem&id=392&da… but gives me this: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=Q392&diff=105675&o… As you can see, the label changed but the change is not shown in "List of pages linked to this item(79 entries)" section. I think it's because they are not the same but it's better to be! and besides does anybody know how can i take page id? i mean i give "Tantalum" and take "392" or "Q392" Best wishes -- Amir -- Amir

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #28
by Lydia Pintscher 19 Oct '12

19 Oct '12

Heya folks :) Here's what's been happening over the last week. As always the wiki version is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2012_10_19 = Development = * Published draft about how information flow from Wikidata repository to client should work: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Change_propagation * Updated the demo system: http://wikidata-test.wikimedia.de * Validation results of Wikidata’s HTML: http://wikidata-docs.wikimedia.de/htmlvalidation/ * Implemented the API serialization of entities in the API serializers * Updated the getentities API module to use the API serializers * Worked on implementation of data model in JavaScript * Fixed diff view for entities other than Items * Created a simple script to fill the test database with properties for chemical elements * Moved most of the JavaScript code into WikibaseLib * Improved code for Recent Changes on the client * Prepared for experiments with Apache Solr * Fix core bugs that appeared after ContentHandler branch merge and deployment on some Wikimedia wikis * Fixed a bug that make it possible to store links to invalid pages * There is on-going work on a change from type-less identifiers for entities to identifiers that also carry type * Made site links table sortable * Worked on review statistics and JS documentation in doxygen (both not finished yet) * Latest review status update: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-October/063924.html See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint for what we’re working on next. You can follow our commits at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension… and view the subset awaiting review at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions… = Discussions/Press = * Short piece about Wikidata in this month’s edition of Exberliner (print) * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-10-15/Techno… * Update by Amir on discussions on Hebrew Wikipedia: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2012-October/001106.html * Should JS/CSS pages be parsed? http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-October/063909.html = Events = see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events * Wikimedia CEE meeting * upcoming: Bootstrapping Awesome * upcoming: SMWCon = Other Noteworthy Stuff = * Announced next office hours for 5th and 6th of November: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events#IRC_office_hours = Open Tasks for You = * Help design the Main Page of Wikidata: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2012-October/001104.html * Hack on one of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer%2C%20&ke… Anything to add? Please share! :) Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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