Now this is strange. The person who created The Womanity Foundation back
in October also created the article Yann Borgstedt
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yann_Borgstedt> which is apparently the guy
who started the organization. The article passed a review by Articles for
Creation back in 2011,
but has just been nominated for deletion.
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Neotarf <neotarf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the
wrong notability
guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants
or garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28organizations_and_companies%29#Non-commercial_organizations>,
further down the page. The page is rather confusing in the way it is
organized, but I don't see any other category that could be used for
political parties or organizations in the public interest.
According to WP:NONPROFIT:
*Non-commercial organizations*
Organizations are usually notable if they meet *both* of the following
standards:
- The scope of their activities is national or international in scale
- The organization has received significant coverage in multiple
reliable sources that are independent of the organization.
So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at
https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for-
pakistan-women-muslim-league/
A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women
Muslim League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11
articles from Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3
articles from sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national
scope, as does the fact that the party is registered nationally.
If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could
be added to another article, I see there is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties although
I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties for
deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list.
I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time. While I
appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally
hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that
should already be obviously notable. Shouldn't anyone be able to go to
Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system.
On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Womanity_Foundation> nominated for
deletion and the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA".
Welcome to Wikipedia. A quick google shows a huge number of reliable
sources.
https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Womanity+Foundation&ie=
utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=The+Womanity+Foundation&tbm=nws Aren't they supposed to
check that before they nominate it for deletion? Can the new community
culture group help with that?
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Neotarf <neotarf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the archived article: "Women’s
political party launched Pakistan
Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014
http://archive.is/V3Vpk
Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission:
https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA280&dq=
Pakistan+Women+Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen&hl=en&sa=X&ved=
0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=Pakist
an%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen&f=false
Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony
http://pwml.pk/index.php/cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony
Official website (English and Urdu):
http://pwml.pk/
See also Maimoonah Khan
https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and
Urdu
https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012757092035&fref=ts There
seem to be new internal elections underway by email starting 3 days ago.
Twitter
https://twitter.com/chrpersonpwml?lang=en
YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCLP3T3yn95nLlP1DLY4LBQ
Another Youtube Rubina Shaheen speaking in Peshawar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X1eatiEeeo
Rubina Shaheen introduces herself as primary school teacher
https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/rubina-shaheen#stories
Linked in:
https://pk.linkedin.com/in/rubina-shaheen-22a252100
There is also a Rubina Shaheen Wattoo, daughter of Manzoor Wattoo,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzoor_Wattoo who seems to have won some
elections,
http://www.pap.gov.pk/index.php/members/profile/en/19/647 and
may be notable, but by the photographs this does not appear to be the same
person. Disambig page?
There was a Rubina/Robina Shaheen who ran in the 2013 election for PK-5
Peshawar KPK Assembly seat, but the party affiliation (PML-Q) (probably The
Pakistan Muslim League or Quaid e Azam Group, Urdu: پاکستان مسلم لیگ ق)
does not look right (s/b PWML), so probably not the same one.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/amp/432028-all-women-cand
idates-from-kp-lost-election-by-huge-marginshttp://www.
electionpakistani.com/ge2013/pk/PK-5.htm
There was a fair amount of coverage of PWML in Urdu sources here, from
their official website, unfortunately these are photos of newspaper
clippings and not digitized.
http://pwml.pk/index.php/home-
en/10-icetheme/features/245-news-media
This may be the only women's party in the world, as Pakistan has seats
reserved for women (although it is not the only country to do this)
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may/09/pakista
n-female-election-candidates-confidence
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
The article for the first women's political
party in Pakistan is about
to be deleted, unless someone can find some sources for it.[1][2]
Urdu-language speakers would be especially useful for this effort.
1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League
2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletio
n/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League
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