Now this is strange.  The person who created The Womanity Foundation back in October also created the article Yann Borgstedt which is apparently the guy who started the organization. The article passed a review by Articles for Creation back in 2011, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yann_Borgstedt but has just been nominated for deletion. 

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Neotarf <neotarf@gmail.com> wrote:
Looking at the discussion, it seems they are using the wrong notability guideline, the first one, WP:COMPANY, which would be used for restaurants or garage bands, instead of WP:NONPROFIT, further down the page. The page is rather confusing in the way it is organized, but I don't see any other category that could be used for political parties or organizations in the public interest.

According to WP:NONPROFIT:

Non-commercial organizations

Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following standards:

  • The scope of their activities is national or international in scale
  • The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization.

So I have compiled a list of the Farsi-language sources at https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/sources-for-pakistan-women-muslim-league/

A total of 12 newspapers have published articles about Pakistan Women Muslim League, including an interview with the founder. There are 11 articles from Peshawar (local) sources, 2 from unidentified sources, and 3 articles from sources from the capital in Islamabad, showing national scope, as does the fact that the party is registered nationally. 

If there is not a consensus for an article, perhaps the information could be added to another article, I see there is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Pakistan#Minor_or_regional_parties although I suppose you would have to nominate all the other small parties for deletion as well, or incorporate them into the list.

I really have to wonder if this is a good use of our time.  While I appreciate Ryan's efforts in bringing this issue here, it took me literally hours to identify these articles to establish notability, on a topic that should already be obviously notable.  Shouldn't anyone be able to go to Wikipedia to find information about another country's political system.

On a similar note, I see The Womanity Foundation nominated for deletion and the person who started the article referred to as "an SPA".  Welcome to Wikipedia. A quick google shows a huge number of reliable sources. https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Womanity+Foundation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=The+Womanity+Foundation&tbm=nws Aren't they supposed to check that before they nominate it for deletion?  Can the new community culture group help with that?


On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Neotarf <neotarf@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the archived article: "Women’s political party launched Pakistan Women Muslim League (PWML)" January 6, 2014 http://archive.is/V3Vpk

Party registered with PEC Pakistan Election Commission:
https://books.google.com/books?id=RROXCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA280&dq=Pakistan+Women+Muslim+League,+Rubina+Shaheen&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwicvJSP19zUAhWFOz4KHQK6BMAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=Pakistan%20Women%20Muslim%20League%2C%20Rubina%20Shaheen&f=false

Cabinet list and photo of oath-taking ceremony http://pwml.pk/index.php/cabinets/188-oath-taking-cermony

Official website (English and Urdu): http://pwml.pk/

See also Maimoonah Khan https://www.facebook.com/pwml.islamabad/ and Urdu https://www.facebook.com/pwmlp, FB profile: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012757092035&fref=ts There seem to be new internal elections underway by email starting 3 days ago.

Rubina Shaheen introduces herself as primary school teacher https://www.worldpulse.com/en/community/users/rubina-shaheen#stories

There is also a Rubina Shaheen Wattoo, daughter of Manzoor Wattoo, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzoor_Wattoo who seems to have won some elections, http://www.pap.gov.pk/index.php/members/profile/en/19/647 and may be notable, but by the photographs this does not appear to be the same person. Disambig page?

There was a Rubina/Robina Shaheen who ran in the 2013 election for PK-5 Peshawar KPK Assembly seat, but the party affiliation (PML-Q) (probably The Pakistan Muslim League or Quaid e Azam Group, Urdu: پاکستان مسلم لیگ ق‎) does not look right (s/b PWML), so probably not the same one.  https://www.thenews.com.pk/archive/amp/432028-all-women-candidates-from-kp-lost-election-by-huge-marginshttp://www.electionpakistani.com/ge2013/pk/PK-5.htm

There was a fair amount of coverage of PWML in Urdu sources here, from their official website, unfortunately these are photos of newspaper clippings and not digitized. http://pwml.pk/index.php/home-en/10-icetheme/features/245-news-media

This may be the only women's party in the world, as Pakistan has seats reserved for women (although it is not the only country to do this) https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may/09/pakistan-female-election-candidates-confidence



On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org> wrote:
The article for the first women's political party in Pakistan is about to be deleted, unless someone can find some sources for it.[1][2] Urdu-language speakers would be especially useful for this effort.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_Women_Muslim_League

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