since you have full system access you can install and run NodeJS-based services as well. And an installer frontend can help manage setup so you don't have to manually do much.
Well, that's the point from your perspective that might cause no trouble because you know what to do but as a developer who has no particular interest in NodeJs or the inner workings of Parsoid, I'm not interested on how to setup NodeJs or for that matter Parsoid. I'm interested in getting MW to run without hassle and not being occupied by trying to install a tomcat or any other service just to see the bare light of the MW logo.
Cheers
On 1/29/15, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think XAMPP-type setups are actually probably going to adapt well here -- since you have full system access you can install and run NodeJS-based services as well. And an installer frontend can help manage setup so you don't have to manually do much.
My biggest worry is the small installation on a server where the maintainer doesn't have full admin/root access -- shared departmental web servers or shared-PHP hosting services.
-- brion
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM, James HK jamesin.hongkong.1@gmail.com wrote:
While I agree that the most important cases should be *really* easy, I worry about the implication that all other cases (including development
of
core MediaWiki without using VMs) should necessarily be allowed to be *really* complex.
If I'm no longer able to run MediaWiki from a XAMPP installation (as part of the development process) without breaking my fingers due to an overlay complicated setup that would require me to read a book before the first line of code hits the editor then its time to put MW in a box and look for something else.
Cheers
On 1/29/15, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwicke@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think that we can help most users more if we identify the most
important
use cases and focus on making those *really* easy. The installation in exotic scenarios should still be supported, but I think it's okay if it involves following some instructions manually.
While I agree that the most important cases should be *really* easy, I worry about the implication that all other cases (including development
of
core MediaWiki without using VMs) should necessarily be allowed to be *really* complex.
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