Hi Lars,
Thanks for raising these issues on wikitech-l.
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote:
After I heard about Liquid Threads in Berlin in April 2010, I immediately asked for it to be activated on sv.wikisource. This request took 4 months. A similar request for sv.wiktionary has still not been granted because it is "better to wait" for some future version.
For context, here's a link to the full text of my comment on further pilot deployments.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19699#c10
Now, during the 1.17 upgrade, the namespaces Thread: and Summary: disappeared from sv.wikisource and this was reported on February 16, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27533 Still after two weeks, no response has been given. The central discussion / village pump is still broken.
I've fixed this this afternoon.
My apologies for this oversight — I've been travelling and busy and not reading my bug mail. In future, if you want to escalate an issue with me, you can do it by private e-mail. I always read email sent directly to me, but I will sometimes ignore automatic bug mail because of the volume I receive.
Should we conclude that the switch to LT was a big mistake, and try to go back to plain old talk pages, never to attempt LT again? I think that question has already been answered by the fact that no comment has been given to the bug report of February 16, not even a time estimate.
Further pilot deployments to other Wikimedia projects is a high priority for us, but in order to do that, we need time to address some serious architectural shortcomings that have been causing pain on several projects. Saying that we are not intending to continue to test LiquidThreads is not accurate — we will be very happy to make further rollouts when our updates are completed in a few months.
I don't see our existing rollouts as mistakes — they've been invaluable in exposing the functional and technical limitations of LiquidThreads as it stands today, and they've helped shape the decisionmaking around the work that we're doing right now.
I realise that you've been very patient so far, and that I've not always been prompt in my dealings with the issue of deploying LiquidThreads to the Swedish projects that you'd like to see it on. Unfortunately, I can only ask that you are patient for another few months, while we prepare ourselves for a second round of pilots.
Thanks very much,
Andrew