Hoi, We are really happy using LiquidThreads at translatewiki.net. We use it in the most heady way at the cutting edge of its development and, while it has its glitches, I do not want to get back to the bad old days of talk pages. At translatewiki.net we do not have the long and winding discussions that blight other projects so much so it may not be representative of what it will be like elsewhere, but in my opinion, perfection is the enemy of the good here. Thanks, GerardM On 4 March 2011 16:17, Lars Aronsson <lars(a)aronsson.se> wrote:

Hi Lars, Thanks for raising these issues on wikitech-l. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Lars Aronsson <lars(a)aronsson.se> wrote: For context, here's a link to the full text of my comment on further pilot deployments. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19699#c10 I've fixed this this afternoon. My apologies for this oversight — I've been travelling and busy and not reading my bug mail. In future, if you want to escalate an issue with me, you can do it by private e-mail. I always read email sent directly to me, but I will sometimes ignore automatic bug mail because of the volume I receive. Further pilot deployments to other Wikimedia projects is a high priority for us, but in order to do that, we need time to address some serious architectural shortcomings that have been causing pain on several projects. Saying that we are not intending to continue to test LiquidThreads is not accurate — we will be very happy to make further rollouts when our updates are completed in a few months. I don't see our existing rollouts as mistakes — they've been invaluable in exposing the functional and technical limitations of LiquidThreads as it stands today, and they've helped shape the decisionmaking around the work that we're doing right now. I realise that you've been very patient so far, and that I've not always been prompt in my dealings with the issue of deploying LiquidThreads to the Swedish projects that you'd like to see it on. Unfortunately, I can only ask that you are patient for another few months, while we prepare ourselves for a second round of pilots. Thanks very much, Andrew -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/