Well... I don't know about reading between the lines, but you seem to not be able to read the lines. I criticized the attitude (with which the issue is presented) in the general mailing list, not the relevance of the issue itself.
I guess it's perfectly OK in the de.ws community to use this attitude, since as was mentioned the view represents the community consensus. But, at least in my book, it's not too smart to call a policy that every other wikisource community is content with "Orwellian", "control freak", "or so" in the general wikisource mailing list (read, among others, by very people who you call control freaks) and expect helpful feedback. And yes, such insults do not belong in the mailing list to which users sign up with expectations of constructive discussions, where respect toward others' opinions is a priory assumed, even if strong disagreements persist. That's my definition of general.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Cecil cecilatwp@gmail.com wrote:
Well, your attitude isn't any better or do you think we can't read between the rows. Good to know that our issues are not for the ''general'' wikisource list. So we've learned at least that only general stuff belongs to this list and our issues are not general. Would you please tell us your definition of 'general'. Is it only everything that you consider acceptable, everybody else is not welcome? Sorry, but shitty attitude.
Cecil
2009/10/29 teak teak.wiki@gmail.com
And I don't think the attitude of the de.ws spokespeople is very helpful for their cause either. That's all my message was meant to convey... but goodluck garnering helpful answers. I, for one, would like to see this issue solved, so that this collective attitude of "de.ws community consensus" can finally get off the lawn of the general wikisource mailing list.
teak
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/10/29 teak teak.wiki@gmail.com:
way to label those who do not agree with your ideas...
There is a need for a law on comparisons to "Orwellian" these days, a la Godwin's.
teak
I do not think that this answer is very helpful. You can substitute "Orwellian" with "control freak" or so.
Joergens has written for the consensus of the German Wikisource community.
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