On 4/11/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
... And honestly, we have to stop worrying about whether edit wars will break out every time we propose a new feature :)
PS Magnus, {{LIMITTOC|3}} would be fine - for a minute there I thought you were telling me about an existing feature and I got all excited :)
I'd prefer {{TOClimit|3}} to match existing documentation for {{TOCleft}} and {{TOCright}}, that will make it easier for folks to remember.
{{TOCright}} exists? I am pleasantly stunned.
Steve
On 4/12/06, William Allen Simpson william.allen.simpson@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/11/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
... And honestly, we have to stop worrying about whether edit wars will break out every time we propose a new feature :)
PS Magnus, {{LIMITTOC|3}} would be fine - for a minute there I thought you were telling me about an existing feature and I got all excited :)
I'd prefer {{TOClimit|3}} to match existing documentation for {{TOCleft}} and {{TOCright}}, that will make it easier for folks to remember.
They do on en: don't know about others.
On 4/12/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
{{TOCright}} exists? I am pleasantly stunned.
Steve
On 4/12/06, William Allen Simpson william.allen.simpson@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/11/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
... And honestly, we have to stop worrying about whether edit wars will break out every time we propose a new feature :)
PS Magnus, {{LIMITTOC|3}} would be fine - for a minute there I thought you were telling me about an existing feature and I got all excited :)
I'd prefer {{TOClimit|3}} to match existing documentation for {{TOCleft}} and {{TOCright}}, that will make it easier for folks to remember.
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on fr: too
g.
On 4/12/06, William Allen Simpson william.allen.simpson@gmail.com wrote:
They do on en: don't know about others.
On 4/12/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
{{TOCright}} exists? I am pleasantly stunned.
Steve
On 4/12/06, William Allen Simpson william.allen.simpson@gmail.com
wrote:
On 4/11/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
... And honestly, we have to stop worrying about whether edit wars will break out every time we propose a new feature :)
PS Magnus, {{LIMITTOC|3}} would be fine - for a minute there I
thought
you were telling me about an existing feature and I got all excited
:)
I'd prefer {{TOClimit|3}} to match existing documentation for
{{TOCleft}}
and {{TOCright}}, that will make it easier for folks to remember.
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Moin,
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 12:35, Guillaume Paumier wrote:
on fr: too
g.
Which is one of the serious problems of having usefull stuff in templates: You need to replicate them to all wikis that might use them.
That's where build-ins for some very-often used or usefull things have an advantage, like other wiki sites getting them, too.
Best wishes,
Tels
* Tels wrote:
Which is one of the serious problems of having usefull stuff in templates: You need to replicate them to all wikis that might use them.
That's where build-ins for some very-often used or usefull things have an advantage, like other wiki sites getting them, too.
Backwards logic. The 'problem' you assign to the templates is actually the absence of the feature in MediaWiki. The template is not the problem, but rather a solution to it. If the 'TOCright' template is at some point deemed vital (which seems unlikely - I worked on it and I know it is not extensively used) then it'll be built into MediaWiki.
Conrad Dunkerson wrote:
- Tels wrote:
Which is one of the serious problems of having usefull stuff in templates: You need to replicate them to all wikis that might use them.
That's where build-ins for some very-often used or usefull things have an advantage, like other wiki sites getting them, too.
Backwards logic. The 'problem' you assign to the templates is actually the absence of the feature in MediaWiki. The template is not the problem, but rather a solution to it. If the 'TOCright' template is at some point deemed vital (which seems unlikely - I worked on it and I know it is not extensively used) then it'll be built into MediaWiki.
You did touch it once, a few days ago.
By "not extensively used" you mean the fact that it is mandated for disambiguation pages and the like, but currently only in a couple of thousand pages, then I'd agree it's not "vital". But it is handy....
Moin,
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 23:04, Conrad Dunkerson wrote:
- Tels wrote:
Which is one of the serious problems of having usefull stuff in templates: You need to replicate them to all wikis that might use them.
That's where build-ins for some very-often used or usefull things have an advantage, like other wiki sites getting them, too.
Backwards logic. The 'problem' you assign to the templates is actually the absence of the feature in MediaWiki. The template is not the problem, but rather a solution to it.
What I meant to express was that the template is the "short-term", but "wrong" solution, in that it works "right now but is not practical in the long run.
E.g. it only works on en, then fr needs to copy it, then ch re-invents it, then it copies it, too, and then somehow all the rest of the wikis on the world need to either re-invent it, or copy it.
Just thinking in needs of Wikipedia (or even one language aspect) neglets all the other wikis out there :)
I know it is much easier to write a template than to produce a source code patch, and the latter isn' the solution to anythign an all. Still, it should be made easier, and in any event a solution for distributing (and updating) usefull templates to other wikis needs to be found.
Best wishes,
Tels
It's great. The TOC on the left side often looks very ugly when it's long. You have a nice intro section, then a long pause while you scroll down, then the text starts again.
I have used it at [[Victoria]] now ;)
Steve
On 4/12/06, Conrad Dunkerson conrad.dunkerson@worldnet.att.net wrote:
- Steve Bennett wrote:
{{TOCright}} exists? I am pleasantly stunned.
Just a template which right aligns __TOC__.
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