I keep thinking that (particularly) the wikivoyage[1] could be much better if we had good maps similar to the dantonwiki[2] (that runs on localwiki[3]).
Is there any similar map project in mediawiki that can be activated in small wikivoyage wikis? [1]http://www.wikivoyage.org/ [2]https://dentonwiki.org/map/The_Square [3]http://localwiki.org/
On 25 November 2012 21:36, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.sousa@gmail.com wrote:
I keep thinking that (particularly) the wikivoyage[1] could be much better if we had good maps similar to the dantonwiki[2] (that runs on localwiki[3]). Is there any similar map project in mediawiki that can be activated in small wikivoyage wikis?
Something related to OpenStreetMap is the obvious candidate, if it won't melt their somewhat underpowered servers to link them too much.
- d.
On 25/11/12 21:38, David Gerard wrote:
On 25 November 2012 21:36, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.sousa@gmail.com wrote:
I keep thinking that (particularly) the wikivoyage[1] could be much better if we had good maps similar to the dantonwiki[2] (that runs on localwiki[3]). Is there any similar map project in mediawiki that can be activated in small wikivoyage wikis?
Something related to OpenStreetMap is the obvious candidate, if it won't melt their somewhat underpowered servers to link them too much.
- d.
There's a hack already implemented on enwiki entirely using templates, involving embedding KML source in subpages, that allows a KML map to be displayed on your web-based KML viewer of choice (such as Google Maps).
It works, but is not widely used.
Perhaps it should be revived?
-- Neil
The mobile team is picking the OSM buildout back on its roadmap. Stay tuned for updates.
--tomasz
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 25 November 2012 21:36, Raylton P. Sousa raylton.sousa@gmail.com wrote:
I keep thinking that (particularly) the wikivoyage[1] could be much better if we had good maps similar to the dantonwiki[2] (that runs on localwiki[3]). Is there any similar map project in mediawiki that can be activated in small wikivoyage wikis?
Something related to OpenStreetMap is the obvious candidate, if it won't melt their somewhat underpowered servers to link them too much.
- d.
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Hello,
from your original email it isn't entirely clear if you are referring to the software stack or the map tile serving provider, but given the replies I am assuming mostly the latter.
A good number of Wikipedia language sites now include decent maps directly accessible from the article either provided through the WikiMiniAtlas[4] (like in en.wiki) or through the osm-gadget[3] (like in de.wiki) or even both (like in es.wiki). Either solution would presumably be available to wikivoyage as well.
The map tiles displayed in WikiMiniAtlas or osm-gadget both are served from the toolserver.org infrastructure and are based on OpenStreetMap data.
The toolserver tileserver provides a variety of different map styles[1], including the "default OpenStreetMap" style, a hike and bike map style, a black and white style and a few others. It also includes map styles rendered in 200+ different languages (where the data is available in OSM)[2], although that is still somewhat experimental. The WikiMiniAtlas also uses client side rendering for high zoom levels, transferring the raw mapdata in geojson and then rendering it in the browser.
Given that the server currently serves maps in production for en.wiki, es.wiki, ru.wiki, de.wiki and a bunch more, my guess would be it probably can also handle wikivoyage, although I have no idea what volume wikivoyage would generate.
Unfortunately, given that the toolserver tileserver currently has no redundancy (it is a single server) and it is also used as a tool / dev server, there has been the odd outage in the past. But given that it is used in production in wikipedia and I haven't heard of any complaints so far, it is hopefully not too bad.
You could probably (after asking) also use the tile serving infrastructure provided by the OSMF. The load generated from all of the wikipedias is currently less than about 10% of tile traffic that osm.org serves, last I have seen. So it shouldn't effect their servers adversely, and it has been pretty reliable.
Or, as Tomasz suggests, you can wait till things migrate to WMF hosted (redundant?) servers, which will hopefully not be too long anymore.
Kai
[1] http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/ [2] http://toolserver.org/~osm/locale/ [3] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Georeferenzierung/Anwendu... [4] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiMiniAtlas
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