As a part of the engineering reorganization, will there be a multimedia team within the readeship or power users groups? For some time I have been hoping to get Wikipedia the ability to provide interactive visualizations.
Also, this article[1] suggests that VR may see widespread adoption in the next few years, and a multimedia team could capitalize on the trend.
Pine
Im told the multimedia team got undisbanded and now is part of editing department.
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
--bawolff On May 9, 2015 2:31 PM, "Pine W" wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
As a part of the engineering reorganization, will there be a multimedia team within the readeship or power users groups? For some time I have been hoping to get Wikipedia the ability to provide interactive visualizations.
Also, this article[1] suggests that VR may see widespread adoption in the next few years, and a multimedia team could capitalize on the trend.
Pine
[1] http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30924022 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
There is a Multimedia team under Editing, and it includes Mark Holmquist of the former Multimedia team as to lead engineer. The teams roadmap is in the works, but 3D is something that's been coming up a lot lately, so the team should be able to at least make some plans around figuring it out pretty soon.
- Trevor
On Saturday, May 9, 2015, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Im told the multimedia team got undisbanded and now is part of editing department.
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
--bawolff On May 9, 2015 2:31 PM, "Pine W" <wiki.pine@gmail.com javascript:;> wrote:
As a part of the engineering reorganization, will there be a multimedia team within the readeship or power users groups? For some time I have
been
hoping to get Wikipedia the ability to provide interactive
visualizations.
Also, this article[1] suggests that VR may see widespread adoption in the next few years, and a multimedia team could capitalize on the trend.
Pine
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On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote:
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could be a useful way to present 3D diagrams embedded in pages. Like SVG, we could use it with or without browser support.
-- Tim Starling
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote:
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could be a useful way to present 3D diagrams embedded in pages. Like SVG, we could use it with or without browser support.
This is pretty cool. There are some examples at <http://examples.x3dom.org/
.
Simple example: a ball-joint pendulum: < http://examples.x3dom.org/physics/ballJoint_pendulum.html%3E Complex example: a liver: < http://liveranatomyexplorer.steven-birr.com/index.php?site=start%3E
On 11/05/15 02:18, Tim Starling wrote:
On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote:
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could be a useful way to present 3D diagrams embedded in pages. Like SVG, we could use it with or without browser support.
Hello,
A potential use case for the encyclopedia, would be to display models of chemistry molecules. An example:
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Jmol_MediaWiki_Extension
The ability to display X3D would be surely most welcome by a wide range of Wiki projects.
2015-05-11 10:29 GMT+01:00 Antoine Musso hashar+wmf@free.fr:
On 11/05/15 02:18, Tim Starling wrote:
On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote:
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could be a useful way to present 3D diagrams embedded in pages. Like SVG, we could use it with or without browser support.
Hello,
A potential use case for the encyclopedia, would be to display models of chemistry molecules. An example:
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/16/ and < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/804/%3E
I'm also curious what our audio/video storage/transcoding/playback roadmap is. IMO it's a pretty fundamental feature that isn't well supported in all the clients (especially mobile). Could probably do some interesting audio stuff (e.g. narration in many languages) for visually impaired.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
2015-05-11 10:29 GMT+01:00 Antoine Musso hashar+wmf@free.fr:
On 11/05/15 02:18, Tim Starling wrote:
On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote:
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is
more
pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video
game
realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could be a useful way to present 3D diagrams embedded in pages. Like SVG, we could use it with or without browser support.
Hello,
A potential use case for the encyclopedia, would be to display models of chemistry molecules. An example:
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/16/ and < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/804/%3E
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While I know that doesn't sound fancy or attractive, I think the multimedia team should have as one of its focuses to help with transitioning to HHVM the imagescalers. There seem to be a few issues with that and some support that won't just come out of goodwill, but as a team commitment, would greatly help with that.
Cheers, Giuseppe
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Brian Gerstle bgerstle@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm also curious what our audio/video storage/transcoding/playback roadmap is. IMO it's a pretty fundamental feature that isn't well supported in all the clients (especially mobile). Could probably do some interesting audio stuff (e.g. narration in many languages) for visually impaired.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
2015-05-11 10:29 GMT+01:00 Antoine Musso hashar+wmf@free.fr:
On 11/05/15 02:18, Tim Starling wrote:
On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote:
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is
more
pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video
game
realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could be a useful way to present 3D diagrams embedded in pages. Like SVG, we could use it with or without browser support.
Hello,
A potential use case for the encyclopedia, would be to display models of chemistry molecules. An example:
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/16/ and < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/804/%3E
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The team has some hires, and there will be some needed focus on hiring at least some of them as backend/MediaWiki core engineers. This is mostly because we acknowledge the sizable backlog of tasks in that area as well as the need to make improvements in that area to support future work.
I'll likely look to The Performance team to help with HHVM related activities as well.
- Trevor
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015, Giuseppe Lavagetto glavagetto@wikimedia.org wrote:
While I know that doesn't sound fancy or attractive, I think the multimedia team should have as one of its focuses to help with transitioning to HHVM the imagescalers. There seem to be a few issues with that and some support that won't just come out of goodwill, but as a team commitment, would greatly help with that.
Cheers, Giuseppe
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Brian Gerstle <bgerstle@wikimedia.org javascript:;> wrote:
I'm also curious what our audio/video storage/transcoding/playback
roadmap
is. IMO it's a pretty fundamental feature that isn't well supported in
all
the clients (especially mobile). Could probably do some interesting
audio
stuff (e.g. narration in many languages) for visually impaired.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Jean-Frédéric <
jeanfrederic.wiki@gmail.com javascript:;>
wrote:
2015-05-11 10:29 GMT+01:00 Antoine Musso <hashar+wmf@free.fr
On 11/05/15 02:18, Tim Starling wrote:
On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote:
>People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is
more
>pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video
game
>realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could be a useful way to present 3D diagrams embedded in pages. Like SVG, we could use it with or without browser support.
Hello,
A potential use case for the encyclopedia, would be to display models
of
chemistry molecules. An example:
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/16/ and < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/804/%3E
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On 5/13/15, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.org wrote:
The team has some hires, and there will be some needed focus on hiring at least some of them as backend/MediaWiki core engineers. This is mostly because we acknowledge the sizable backlog of tasks in that area as well as the need to make improvements in that area to support future work.
I'll likely look to The Performance team to help with HHVM related activities as well.
- Trevor
So this is probably a good time to ask. What is the scope of the current Multimedia team. Are they responsible for literally every multimedia related thing, or just stuff related to "editing" (they're in the "editing" department after all), or somewhere in the middle
--bawolff
I think the scope is multimedia contribution and curation. We will be working with the reading and search teams to improve the presentation and discoverability if media items.
The scalers are in between, we need them for both presentation and contribution pipelines. For the time being I'm anticipating this landing on the editing side.
- Trevor
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/13/15, Trevor Parscal <tparscal@wikimedia.org javascript:;> wrote:
The team has some hires, and there will be some needed focus on hiring at least some of them as backend/MediaWiki core engineers. This is mostly because we acknowledge the sizable backlog of tasks in that area as well
as
the need to make improvements in that area to support future work.
I'll likely look to The Performance team to help with HHVM related activities as well.
- Trevor
So this is probably a good time to ask. What is the scope of the current Multimedia team. Are they responsible for literally every multimedia related thing, or just stuff related to "editing" (they're in the "editing" department after all), or somewhere in the middle
--bawolff
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Hi,
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Im told the multimedia team got undisbanded and now is part of editing department.
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors?showall=1 is up to date, and you can see a Multimedia team there (Matmarex, marktraceur, and prtksxna).
People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet
See Allow uploading of 3D files to Wikimedia Commons https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790 (created on Mar 31 2005 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790#60882, a decade ago). We have tried to propose this idea in several GSoC / Outreachy rounds, but somehow we have struggled finding mentors or candidates, or perhaps even a clear plan for a first release.
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