Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related discussion groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides being scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities of a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost instance in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes: * This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a group of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a message. * Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW * As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted. * As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public are covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
I just installed but there is nothing, can you create a channel as test?, please
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:00, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related discussion groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides being scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities of a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost instance in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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Hey, can you try? https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:37 AM Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com wrote:
I just installed but there is nothing, can you create a channel as test?, please
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:00, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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Thanks, it works!!
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:40, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hey, can you try? https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:37 AM Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com wrote:
I just installed but there is nothing, can you create a channel as test?, please
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:00, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic
functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org,
anyone
can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically
deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical
issues,
file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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I'm only getting 408 (connection timed out) errors.
Best, QEDK
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 06:26 Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, it works!!
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:40, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hey, can you try? https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:37 AM Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com
wrote:
I just installed but there is nothing, can you create a channel as
test?,
please
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:00, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic
functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org,
anyone
can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical
or
enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically
deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and
public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical
issues,
file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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I don't have any issues atm (tried again with different connections, etc.). Is it common, does others have this issue too?
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:21 PM QEDK qedk.en@gmail.com wrote:
I'm only getting 408 (connection timed out) errors.
Best, QEDK
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 06:26 Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, it works!!
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:40, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hey, can you try? https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:37 AM Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com
wrote:
I just installed but there is nothing, can you create a channel as
test?,
please
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:00, Amir Sarabadani ( ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more
collaborations
happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more.
Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in
those
platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic
functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org,
anyone
can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the
oher
similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by
a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical
or
enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically
deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and
public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces:
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical
issues,
file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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Whats wrong with Freenode?
Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 15:35 schreef Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com
I don't have any issues atm (tried again with different connections, etc.).
Is it common, does others have this issue too?
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:21 PM QEDK qedk.en@gmail.com wrote:
I'm only getting 408 (connection timed out) errors.
Best,
QEDK
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 06:26 Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, it works!!
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:40, Amir Sarabadani (
ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hey, can you try? https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:37 AM Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com
wrote:
I just installed but there is nothing, can you create a channel as
test?,
please
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:00, Amir Sarabadani (
ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hello,
Due to the current situation, there are more and more
collaborations
happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more.
Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in
those
platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use
proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic
functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a
mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
* Ability to scrollback and read messages when you wereoffline
* Push notification and email notification* You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others* Proper support for sharing media* Two factor authentication* A proper mobile app support* Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremelyimportant)
* Profile pictures* Ability to ping everyone with @here* much much more.You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org,
anyone
can
make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the
oher
similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained
by
a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either
technical
or
enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically
deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and
public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces:
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical
issues,
file a bug in the phabricator.
Best
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Well not sure about the cause, but I've tried it on two different networks (one network manages the HTTPS redirection) but both time out in the end. I've also tried using two different DNSes (Google and Cloudflare) and the result is the same (same result on curl).
Best, QEDK
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 19:34 Sterkebak sterkebak@gmail.com wrote:
Whats wrong with Freenode?
Op zo 30 aug. 2020 om 15:35 schreef Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com
I don't have any issues atm (tried again with different connections,
etc.).
Is it common, does others have this issue too?
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:21 PM QEDK qedk.en@gmail.com wrote:
I'm only getting 408 (connection timed out) errors.
Best,
QEDK
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 06:26 Esteban Zarate jezarate@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, it works!!
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:40, Amir Sarabadani (
ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
Hey, can you try? https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:37 AM Esteban Zarate <jezarate@gmail.com
wrote:
I just installed but there is nothing, can you create a channel
as
test?,
please
El sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 21:00, Amir Sarabadani (
ladsgroup@gmail.com) escribió:
> Hello,
> Due to the current situation, there are more and more
collaborations
> happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
> groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more.
Besides
being
> scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in
those
> platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms
use
> proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
> infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
>
> IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic
functionalities
of
> a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a
mattermost
instance
> in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
> * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were
offline
> * Push notification and email notification
> * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others
> * Proper support for sharing media
> * Two factor authentication
> * A proper mobile app support
> * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely
important)
> * Profile pictures
> * Ability to ping everyone with @here
> * much much more.
>
> You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to
anyone
> can
> make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1],
the
oher
> similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
>
> Some notes:
> * This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained
by
a
group
> of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either
technical
or
> enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop
me a
message.
> * Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies:
> * As a result, all messages older than 90 days get
automatically
deleted.
> * As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and
public
are
> covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces:
>
> Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any
technical
issues,
> file a bug in the phabricator.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite
>
> Best
> --
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În dum., 30 aug. 2020 la 03:00, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com a scris:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related discussion groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides being scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
Hey Amir,
Please take this email as positive feedback, even if it might not sound like it :)
As much as I value software freedom and my personal data, I've learned during the years that the best conversations happen where people converge naturally, not where one wants them to be. What you describe below is an awesome list of features ... that already exist elsewhere. I could give you an equally long list of things that are missing, but individually, none of them matter. What matters is which platform most people choose, based on which of the features are important for them. And that platform might be different for different projects.
What that means is that Wikimedia Chat will be just another name in that long list of apps that people choose to use or not. It's fine if you want to maintain it, it's great if it will gain traction, but don't be too upset if it will have the same usage as Wikimedia Spaces.
Strainu
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities of a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost instance in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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I also have same problem like QEDK, I've also tried it on two different networks after seen QEDK's email but both time out in the end.
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 9:21 PM Strainu strainu10@gmail.com wrote:
În dum., 30 aug. 2020 la 03:00, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com a scris:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
Hey Amir,
Please take this email as positive feedback, even if it might not sound like it :)
As much as I value software freedom and my personal data, I've learned during the years that the best conversations happen where people converge naturally, not where one wants them to be. What you describe below is an awesome list of features ... that already exist elsewhere. I could give you an equally long list of things that are missing, but individually, none of them matter. What matters is which platform most people choose, based on which of the features are important for them. And that platform might be different for different projects.
What that means is that Wikimedia Chat will be just another name in that long list of apps that people choose to use or not. It's fine if you want to maintain it, it's great if it will gain traction, but don't be too upset if it will have the same usage as Wikimedia Spaces.
Strainu
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone
can
make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
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Hi everyone,
They were issues with various things due to a CenturyLink outage that then impacted a lot else. (IRCCloud / Cloudflare for example).
Maybe, try now?
Thanks, RhinosF1
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 17:04, ZI Jony zi.jony93@gmail.com wrote:
I also have same problem like QEDK, I've also tried it on two different
networks after seen QEDK's email but both time out in the end.
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 9:21 PM Strainu strainu10@gmail.com wrote:
În dum., 30 aug. 2020 la 03:00, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com a
scris:
Hello,
Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations
happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those
platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use
proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
Hey Amir,
Please take this email as positive feedback, even if it might not
sound like it :)
As much as I value software freedom and my personal data, I've learned
during the years that the best conversations happen where people
converge naturally, not where one wants them to be. What you describe
below is an awesome list of features ... that already exist elsewhere.
I could give you an equally long list of things that are missing, but
individually, none of them matter. What matters is which platform most
people choose, based on which of the features are important for them.
And that platform might be different for different projects.
What that means is that Wikimedia Chat will be just another name in
that long list of apps that people choose to use or not. It's fine if
you want to maintain it, it's great if it will gain traction, but
don't be too upset if it will have the same usage as Wikimedia Spaces.
Strainu
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic
functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
* Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline* Push notification and email notification* You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others* Proper support for sharing media* Two factor authentication* A proper mobile app support* Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important)* Profile pictures* Ability to ping everyone with @here* much much more.You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org,
anyone
can
make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher
similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or
enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically
deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical
issues,
file a bug in the phabricator.
Best
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Thanks, Samuel
Thanks a lot for your work Amir, this is really wonderful.
When organizing online events over the past 6 months, we often had the problem of finding a discussion tool that would be altogether open source, hosted on our own servers, complying to local laws (GDPR for Europe), and having some modern features that are missing on IRC. I think that Mattermost is a great answer to that, and I hope that your efforts will be supported by other volunteers and WMF.
I'm looking forward to experimenting with our instance during upcoming events :)
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 02:01, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related discussion groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides being scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities of a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost instance in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
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Hi!
Thanks for providing another communication tool.
Some questions:
- Is there a reason why we are not using Wikimedia account SSO for the chat? - The Terms link leads directly to the Tech Code of Conduct. Shouldn't it link to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en instead? After all terms are usually more than just a Code of Conduct. - The linked privacy policy https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Chat/Privacy_Policy is a bit scary. It states that there is no expectation of privacy as my chats could be published at any time and that the administrators might have access to my username/password combination, which should not at all be necessary. Is that really the intent here?
Best regards,
Count Count
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:00 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related discussion groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides being scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities of a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost instance in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
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For the privacy policy question, that box is standard for anything hosted with Cloud Services.
I'd trust Amir wouldn't do that but it reduces the responsibility of WMCS.
Thanks.
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 08:56, Count Count countvoncount123456@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for providing another communication tool.
Some questions:
- Is there a reason why we are not using Wikimedia account SSO for the
chat?
- The Terms link leads directly to the Tech Code of Conduct. Shouldn't
it link to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en instead?
After all terms are usually more than just a Code of Conduct.
- The linked privacy policy
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Chat/Privacy_Policy is
a bit scary. It states that there is no expectation of privacy as my chats
could be published at any time and that the administrators might have
access to my username/password combination, which should not at all be
necessary. Is that really the intent here?
Best regards,
Count Count
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:00 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations
happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those
platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use
proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
* Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline* Push notification and email notification* You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others* Proper support for sharing media* Two factor authentication* A proper mobile app support* Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important)* Profile pictures* Ability to ping everyone with @here* much much more.You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone
can
make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher
similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or
enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues,
file a bug in the phabricator.
Best
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Thanks, Samuel
Hey!
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:56 AM Count Count countvoncount123456@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for providing another communication tool.
Some questions:
- Is there a reason why we are not using Wikimedia account SSO for the
chat?
Due to the privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud, we are not allowed to use SUL or LDAP of Wikimedia or Wikitech respectively, but I have been looking into improving the user integration because it has been asked in multiple places. You can follow it in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261631
Mattermost doesn't have a native support for Wikimedia OAuth but it has support for GitLab OAuth and funnily enough, since everything is customizable in settings, I assume it should workTM, if yes, it would look weird but it would work. If not, we have to file a bug in upstream (mattermost) and ask for a general OAuth support.
- The Terms link leads directly to the Tech Code of Conduct. Shouldn't
it link to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en instead? After all terms are usually more than just a Code of Conduct.
I don't have many preferences in that regard, I have one choice for terms of use and can't decide between this or that.
- The linked privacy policy
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Chat/Privacy_Policy is a bit scary. It states that there is no expectation of privacy as my chats could be published at any time and that the administrators might have access to my username/password combination, which should not at all be necessary. Is that really the intent here?
As said before, this is the standard privacy policy that we must use in order to comply with the Cloud terms of use https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Cloud_Services_Terms_of_use
Not that I won't publish anything private, also the mattermost itself protects private data (like passwords) by hashing them.
Best regards,
Count Count
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:00 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
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