Hey!
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:56 AM Count Count <countvoncount123456(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for providing another communication tool.
Some questions:
- Is there a reason why we are not using Wikimedia account SSO for the
chat?
Due to the privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud, we are not allowed to use SUL
or LDAP of Wikimedia or Wikitech respectively, but I have been looking into
improving the user integration because it has been asked in multiple
places. You can follow it in
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261631
Mattermost doesn't have a native support for Wikimedia OAuth but it has
support for GitLab OAuth and funnily enough, since everything is
customizable in settings, I assume it should workTM, if yes, it would look
weird but it would work. If not, we have to file a bug in upstream
(mattermost) and ask for a general OAuth support.
- The Terms link leads directly to the Tech Code of Conduct. Shouldn't
it link to
https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en
instead?
After all terms are usually more than just a Code of Conduct.
I don't have many preferences in that regard, I have one choice for terms
of use and can't decide between this or that.
- The linked privacy policy
<https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Chat/Privacy_Policy>
is
a bit scary. It states that there is no expectation of privacy as my
chats
could be published at any time and that the administrators might have
access to my username/password combination, which should not at all be
necessary. Is that really the intent here?
As said before, this is the standard privacy policy that we must use in
order to comply with the Cloud terms of use
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Cloud_Services_Terms_of_use
Not that I won't publish anything private, also the mattermost itself
protects private data (like passwords) by hashing them.
Best regards,
Count Count
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:00 AM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,
Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations
happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and
many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who
don't have accounts in those
platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use
proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia
infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia
Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have:
* Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline
* Push notification and email notification
* You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others
* Proper support for sharing media
* Two factor authentication
* A proper mobile app support
* Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important)
* Profile pictures
* Ability to ping everyone with @here
* much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to
https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone
can
make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher
similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
* This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the
team (either technical or
enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
* Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies:
https://w.wiki/aQW
* As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
* As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces:
https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues,
file a bug in the phabricator.
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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