Hey!
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:56 AM Count Count countvoncount123456@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for providing another communication tool.
Some questions:
- Is there a reason why we are not using Wikimedia account SSO for the
chat?
Due to the privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud, we are not allowed to use SUL or LDAP of Wikimedia or Wikitech respectively, but I have been looking into improving the user integration because it has been asked in multiple places. You can follow it in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261631
Mattermost doesn't have a native support for Wikimedia OAuth but it has support for GitLab OAuth and funnily enough, since everything is customizable in settings, I assume it should workTM, if yes, it would look weird but it would work. If not, we have to file a bug in upstream (mattermost) and ask for a general OAuth support.
- The Terms link leads directly to the Tech Code of Conduct. Shouldn't
it link to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en instead? After all terms are usually more than just a Code of Conduct.
I don't have many preferences in that regard, I have one choice for terms of use and can't decide between this or that.
- The linked privacy policy
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Chat/Privacy_Policy is a bit scary. It states that there is no expectation of privacy as my chats could be published at any time and that the administrators might have access to my username/password combination, which should not at all be necessary. Is that really the intent here?
As said before, this is the standard privacy policy that we must use in order to comply with the Cloud terms of use https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Cloud_Services_Terms_of_use
Not that I won't publish anything private, also the mattermost itself protects private data (like passwords) by hashing them.
Best regards,
Count Count
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:00 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Due to the current situation, there are more and more collaborations happening online instead. and now you can see Wikimedia-related
discussion
groups in Slack, Discord, Telegram, Facebook, and many more. Besides
being
scattered and inaccessible to people who don't have accounts in those platforms (for privacy reasons for example), these platforms use proprietary and closed-source software, are outside Wikimedia infrastructure and some harvest our personal data for profit.
IRC on freenode is a good alternative but it lacks basic functionalities
of
a modern chat platform. So we created Wikimedia Chat, a mattermost
instance
in Wikimedia Cloud. Compared to IRC, you have: * Ability to scrollback and read messages when you were offline * Push notification and email notification * You don't need to get a cloak to hide your IP from others * Proper support for sharing media * Two factor authentication * A proper mobile app support * Ability to add custom emojis (yes, it's extremely important) * Profile pictures * Ability to ping everyone with @here * much much more.
You can use Wikimedia Chat by going to https://chat.wmcloud.org, anyone can make an account. This is part of Wikimedia Social suite [1], the oher similar project is "Wikimedia Meet". [2]
Some notes:
- This is done in my volunteer capacity and has been maintained by a
group
of volunteers. If you're willing to join the team (either technical or enforcing CoC, kicking out spammers, other daily work), drop me a
message.
- Privacy policy of Wikimedia Cloud applies: https://w.wiki/aQW
- As a result, all messages older than 90 days get automatically deleted.
- As a Wikimedia Cloud project, all of discussions, private and public
are
covered by Code of conduct in technical spaces: https://w.wiki/AK$
Hope that would be useful for you, if you encounter any technical issues, file a bug in the phabricator.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Social_Suite [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
Best
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