Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
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What does autopratica mean?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
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My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the results even though the word doesn't appear there?
Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to be surprised.
Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find it in any recent version.
-- Amir
2012/9/16 John phoenixoverride@gmail.com:
What does autopratica mean?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
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That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the results even though the word doesn't appear there?
Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to be surprised.
Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find it in any recent version.
-- Amir
2012/9/16 John phoenixoverride@gmail.com:
What does autopratica mean?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
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I'm not sure that I understand what you mean.
2012/9/16 John phoenixoverride@gmail.com:
That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the results even though the word doesn't appear there?
Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to be surprised.
Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find it in any recent version.
-- Amir
2012/9/16 John phoenixoverride@gmail.com:
What does autopratica mean?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
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sorry, should really double check my facts "Care" redirects not cure http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=...
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
I'm not sure that I understand what you mean.
2012/9/16 John phoenixoverride@gmail.com:
That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the results even though the word doesn't appear there?
Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to be surprised.
Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find it in any recent version.
-- Amir
2012/9/16 John phoenixoverride@gmail.com:
What does autopratica mean?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
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I think it's related to the other search result (Fiori di Bach):
… necessarie per effettuare [[diagnosi|autodiagnosi]] e [[terapia|autopratica]].
That article links to the article "Terapia", but the link text is "autopratica", so, presumably, the search engine takes this to mean that "terapia" and "autopratica" are synonyms (or at least closely related).
Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]]
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
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Aha, this may be related.
An Italian Wikipedia found it puzzling.
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2012/9/16 Petr Onderka gsvick@gmail.com:
I think it's related to the other search result (Fiori di Bach):
… necessarie per effettuare [[diagnosi|autodiagnosi]] e [[terapia|autopratica]].
That article links to the article "Terapia", but the link text is "autopratica", so, presumably, the search engine takes this to mean that "terapia" and "autopratica" are synonyms (or at least closely related).
Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]]
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
[1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3... [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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"Autopratica" is actually not a valid word: or rather, it's a neologism from a new/fringe theory, possibly grammatical thanks to the productivity of auto- but slightly confusing due to the jargon-meaning of "pratica" here.
That said, the reason is surely in that link label, which is the only use of the word on the wiki.
Nemo
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.comwrote:
"Autopratica" is actually not a valid word: or rather, it's a neologism from a new/fringe theory, possibly grammatical thanks to the productivity of auto- but slightly confusing due to the jargon-meaning of "pratica" here.
That said, the reason is surely in that link label, which is the only use of the word on the wiki.
Nemo
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