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John

16 Sep 16 Sep

4:34 p.m.

New subject: a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

What does autopratica mean? On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

Hi, If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results? [1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%… [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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John

4:53 p.m.

New subject: a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

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My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the results even though the word doesn't appear there? Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to be surprised. Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find it in any recent version. -- Amir 2012/9/16 John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>om>:

What does autopratica mean? On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

Hi, If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results? [1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%… [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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John

5:01 p.m.

New subject: a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

sorry, should really double check my facts "Care" redirects not cure http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie… On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

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I'm not sure that I understand what you mean. 2012/9/16 John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>om>:

That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the results even though the word doesn't appear there? Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to be surprised. Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find it in any recent version. -- Amir 2012/9/16 John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>om>:

What does autopratica mean? On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > Hi, > > If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, > the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word > doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results? > > [1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%… > [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Amir E. Aharoni

5:09 p.m.

New subject: a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

Aha, this may be related. An Italian Wikipedia found it puzzling. -- Amir 2012/9/16 Petr Onderka <gsvick(a)gmail.com>om>:

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I think it's related to the other search result (Fiori di Bach):

… necessarie per effettuare [[diagnosi|autodiagnosi]] e [[terapia|autopratica]].

That article links to the article "Terapia", but the link text is "autopratica", so, presumably, the search engine takes this to mean that "terapia" and "autopratica" are synonyms (or at least closely related). Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]] On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

Hi, If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia, the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results? [1] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%… [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Oren Bochman

9:25 a.m.

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The algorithm used to rank search results uses ... a variant of page rank so the reasons may lay off the actual page. - Oren Bochman On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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"Autopratica" is actually not a valid word: or rather, it's a neologism from a new/fringe theory, possibly grammatical thanks to the productivity of auto- but slightly confusing due to the jargon-meaning of "pratica" here. That said, the reason is surely in that link label, which is the only use of the word on the wiki. Nemo ______________________________**_________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l<https://lists.…

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