Hi Community Metrics team,
This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail.
Accounts created in (2016-05): 256 Active users (any activity) in (2016-05): 861 Task authors in (2016-05): 484 Users who have closed tasks in (2016-05): 260
Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on their workboard in (2016-05): 0
Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 Open and stalled tasks in total: 30026
Median age in days of open tasks by priority:
Unbreak now: 19 Needs Triage: 170 High: 280 Normal: 433 Low: 743 Lowest: 555
(How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority)
TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 .
Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor
(via community_metrics.sh on iridium at Wed Jun 1 00:00:10 UTC 2016)
I'm impressed by how many new accounts were created; 256 in a single month. I'd be interested to know what typically prompts people to create accounts. Also, does the 256 number include people who use their MediaWiki credentials to log into Phabricator for the first time?
Just curious, Pine
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:00 PM, communitymetrics@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Community Metrics team,
This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail.
Accounts created in (2016-05): 256 Active users (any activity) in (2016-05): 861 Task authors in (2016-05): 484 Users who have closed tasks in (2016-05): 260
Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on their workboard in (2016-05): 0
Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 Open and stalled tasks in total: 30026
Median age in days of open tasks by priority:
Unbreak now: 19 Needs Triage: 170 High: 280 Normal: 433 Low: 743 Lowest: 555
(How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority)
TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 .
Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor
(via community_metrics.sh on iridium at Wed Jun 1 00:00:10 UTC 2016)
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---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com Komu: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 1. 6. 2016 2:06:11 Předmět: Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05
"I'm impressed by how many new accounts were created; 256 in a single month. I'd be interested to know what typically prompts people to create accounts. "
We were dealing with repetitive sockpuppet accounts which came through MediaWiki, so that has an influence on the final number. However, I can't say, how big, having no exact data available.
If you look back through all the previous monthly statistics emails, account creations regularly go above 300 per month. Phabricator account creations are done through first MediaWiki logins via OAuth or LDAP, yes.
Here are the numbers that I'd like to draw people's attentions to: Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 That's a difference of 297 tasks... Difference (2016-05): 297 Difference (2016-04): 243 Difference (2016-03): 454 Difference (2016-02): 238 Difference (2016-01): 418 These difference should really be negative, but right now it looks like we're slowly accumulating more and more bugs...
On 1 June 2016 at 01:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I'm impressed by how many new accounts were created; 256 in a single month. I'd be interested to know what typically prompts people to create accounts. Also, does the 256 number include people who use their MediaWiki credentials to log into Phabricator for the first time?
Just curious, Pine
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:00 PM, communitymetrics@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Community Metrics team,
This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail.
Accounts created in (2016-05): 256 Active users (any activity) in (2016-05): 861 Task authors in (2016-05): 484 Users who have closed tasks in (2016-05): 260
Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on their workboard in (2016-05): 0
Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 Open and stalled tasks in total: 30026
Median age in days of open tasks by priority:
Unbreak now: 19 Needs Triage: 170 High: 280 Normal: 433 Low: 743 Lowest: 555
(How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority)
TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 .
Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor
(via community_metrics.sh on iridium at Wed Jun 1 00:00:10 UTC 2016)
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Hi Alex,
That increase could be a result of GSOC projects starting, which must create boat loads of tasks in the first month to plot the path of their project.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com wrote:
If you look back through all the previous monthly statistics emails, account creations regularly go above 300 per month. Phabricator account creations are done through first MediaWiki logins via OAuth or LDAP, yes.
Here are the numbers that I'd like to draw people's attentions to: Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 That's a difference of 297 tasks... Difference (2016-05): 297 Difference (2016-04): 243 Difference (2016-03): 454 Difference (2016-02): 238 Difference (2016-01): 418 These difference should really be negative, but right now it looks like we're slowly accumulating more and more bugs...
On 1 June 2016 at 01:05, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I'm impressed by how many new accounts were created; 256 in a single month. I'd be interested to know what typically prompts people to create accounts. Also, does the 256 number include people who use their MediaWiki credentials to log into Phabricator for the first time?
Just curious, Pine
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:00 PM, communitymetrics@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Community Metrics team,
This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail.
Accounts created in (2016-05): 256 Active users (any activity) in (2016-05): 861 Task authors in (2016-05): 484 Users who have closed tasks in (2016-05): 260
Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on their workboard in (2016-05): 0
Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 Open and stalled tasks in total: 30026
Median age in days of open tasks by priority:
Unbreak now: 19 Needs Triage: 170 High: 280 Normal: 433 Low: 743 Lowest: 555
(How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority)
TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 .
Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor
(via community_metrics.sh on iridium at Wed Jun 1 00:00:10 UTC 2016)
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On 2016-06-01 02:24, Alex Monk wrote:
Here are the numbers that I'd like to draw people's attentions to: Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 That's a difference of 297 tasks... Difference (2016-05): 297 Difference (2016-04): 243 Difference (2016-03): 454 Difference (2016-02): 238 Difference (2016-01): 418 These difference should really be negative, but right now it looks like we're slowly accumulating more and more bugs...
We are, and we've always been. If you go through the same data from the time of Bugzilla, I don't think you'll find a single month where the count decreased. I don't remember any myself.
Just to add to Bartosz's comment, the definition of tasks in Phabricator includes feature requests, so more tasks may or may not correlate with more problems.
Someone in QA may be able to comment with more detail about the number, severity or percentage of problems relative to the number of tickets, and the general quality trends of MediaWiki.
Pine On May 31, 2016 18:20, "Bartosz Dziewoński" matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
On 2016-06-01 02:24, Alex Monk wrote:
Here are the numbers that I'd like to draw people's attentions to: Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 That's a difference of 297 tasks... Difference (2016-05): 297 Difference (2016-04): 243 Difference (2016-03): 454 Difference (2016-02): 238 Difference (2016-01): 418 These difference should really be negative, but right now it looks like we're slowly accumulating more and more bugs...
We are, and we've always been. If you go through the same data from the time of Bugzilla, I don't think you'll find a single month where the count decreased. I don't remember any myself.
-- Bartosz Dziewoński
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---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com Komu: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 1. 6. 2016 4:02:40 Předmět: Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05
"Just to add to Bartosz's comment, the definition of tasks in Phabricator includes feature requests, so more tasks may or may not correlate with more problems.
Someone in QA may be able to comment with more detail about the number, severity or percentage of problems relative to the number of tickets, and the general quality trends of MediaWiki. "
If tasks were properly triaged and tagged, it would be easy to create various quite accurate statistics. But attempts to create tags which would allow it were and are unfortunatelly being questioned, delayed, stalled or even declined.
In one of my previous jobs, where I was taking care of the bugtracker as a part of my duty, after I made an order in it, the number of opened tasks decreased to nearly 70% of the original count. Then after some statistics I' ve ran from the new data, our teams became more effective and productive due to having better data to work with and at the end of the consolidation process, we ended up in oscilating between 30-50% of the original amount of opened tasks.
I wish it was possible to achieve the same here...
Public data about product quality (in terms of conformance to specs) would be useful, I agree. Especially if the measurements are standardized across products.
Pine On May 31, 2016 19:24, "Danny B." Wikipedia.Danny.B@email.cz wrote:
---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com Komu: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Datum: 1. 6. 2016 4:02:40 Předmět: Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05
"Just to add to Bartosz's comment, the definition of tasks in Phabricator includes feature requests, so more tasks may or may not correlate with more problems.
Someone in QA may be able to comment with more detail about the number, severity or percentage of problems relative to the number of tickets, and the general quality trends of MediaWiki. "
If tasks were properly triaged and tagged, it would be easy to create various quite accurate statistics. But attempts to create tags which would allow it were and are unfortunatelly being questioned, delayed, stalled or even declined.
In one of my previous jobs, where I was taking care of the bugtracker as a part of my duty, after I made an order in it, the number of opened tasks decreased to nearly 70% of the original count. Then after some statistics I' ve ran from the new data, our teams became more effective and productive due to having better data to work with and at the end of the consolidation process, we ended up in oscilating between 30-50% of the original amount of opened tasks.
I wish it was possible to achieve the same here...
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On Wed, 2016-06-01 at 04:23 +0200, Danny B. wrote:
If tasks were properly triaged and tagged, it would be easy to create various quite accurate statistics.
If you think that tasks aren't "properly triaged" currently, could you elaborate what specifically you'd like to see changed?
But attempts to create tags which would allow it were and are unfortunatelly being questioned, delayed, stalled or even declined.
Do you have specific examples? I do ask for usecases on proposed tags when I don't see how they'd support those folks managing and fixing tasks, as I'd like to avoid categorizing for the sake of categorizing (+people need to do the categorizing, which triggers notifications).
In one of my previous jobs, where I was taking care of the bugtracker as a part of my duty, after I made an order in it, the number of opened tasks decreased to nearly 70% of the original count.
Was that a public bugtracker where anyone could file tasks and anyone could work on tasks (FOSS project?), or an internal instance?
Cheers, andre
Then after some statistics I' ve ran from the new data, our teams became more effective and productive due to having better data to work with and at the end of the consolidation process, we ended up in oscilating between 30-50% of the original amount of opened tasks.
I wish it was possible to achieve the same here...
-- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
There have been months when the number of open tickets in Bugzilla decreased, but IMO that was always due to a mass-cleanup of ancient open tickets and not because of a sudden burst of coding activity.
Bugzilla was a bug tracker for software bug reports & feature requests. Phabricator is a project management tool also welcoming managing projects unrelated to software (e.g. chapter activities) plus superseding activity previously taking place in Mingle, Trello, or RT, which I see as one reason for the amount of activity and tasks.
andre
On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 19:01 -0700, Pine W wrote:
Just to add to Bartosz's comment, the definition of tasks in Phabricator includes feature requests, so more tasks may or may not correlate with more problems.
Someone in QA may be able to comment with more detail about the number, severity or percentage of problems relative to the number of tickets, and the general quality trends of MediaWiki.
Pine On May 31, 2016 18:20, "Bartosz Dziewoński" matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
On 2016-06-01 02:24, Alex Monk wrote:
Here are the numbers that I'd like to draw people's attentions to: Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 That's a difference of 297 tasks... Difference (2016-05): 297 Difference (2016-04): 243 Difference (2016-03): 454 Difference (2016-02): 238 Difference (2016-01): 418 These difference should really be negative, but right now it looks like we're slowly accumulating more and more bugs...
We are, and we've always been. If you go through the same data from the time of Bugzilla, I don't think you'll find a single month where the count decreased. I don't remember any myself.
-- Bartosz Dziewoński
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On 1 June 2016 at 02:19, Bartosz Dziewoński matma.rex@gmail.com wrote:
On 2016-06-01 02:24, Alex Monk wrote:
Here are the numbers that I'd like to draw people's attentions to: Tasks created in (2016-05): 2572 Tasks closed in (2016-05): 2275 That's a difference of 297 tasks... Difference (2016-05): 297 Difference (2016-04): 243 Difference (2016-03): 454 Difference (2016-02): 238 Difference (2016-01): 418 These difference should really be negative, but right now it looks like we're slowly accumulating more and more bugs...
We are, and we've always been. If you go through the same data from the time of Bugzilla, I don't think you'll find a single month where the count decreased. I don't remember any myself.
I don't know about months as we used to get the data in weeks, but here are the first two weeks in my inbox: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-February/058189.html https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-February/058356.html
We occasionally managed to display a decrease in open reports in the bugzilla weekly reports; I remember we did during at least one annual hackathon.
Besides, in Phabricator we have no way to tell bugs from feature requests from random discussions https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102#11218 , nor reports/charts like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/reports.cgi?product=Bugzilla&datasets=UNCON... nor a real advanced search for all task metadata and history.
We could maybe produce dumps of Phabricator data and import them in a bugzilla instance regularly to ease research, but see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108199
Nemo
On Wed, 2016-06-01 at 01:24 +0100, Alex Monk wrote:
If you look back through all the previous monthly statistics emails, account creations regularly go above 300 per month.
For a graphical overview over the last months, also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics#New_accounts_in_Phabricator
Cheers, andre
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:05 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I'm impressed by how many new accounts were created; 256 in a single month.
See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics#New_accounts_in_Phabricator
I'd be interested to know what typically prompts people to create accounts.
I clicked on a random selection of recently created accounts. There were several Wikimedians going after projects like Wiki Loves Earth, Wikidata, other stuff interesting for tech-savvy editors. There were some accounts without activity and without profile in mediawiki.org (but I didn't check whether those usernames had contributions in other projects) and there was at least one clear tester (spammer?) recently blocked in mw.o.
I have the impression that the significant growth is driven by editors who become aware and familiar with Phabricator, watching technical tasks closer but also getting involved in less technical projects using Phabricator as the project management tool that it is. I have no references or data to back up this assumption, sorry. :)
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