No problem, I'll run some extra queries.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com> wrote:
1 day isnt much to base a decision on, especially
on a global level.
Normally I would use a sample set of at least a week, to a month of
values.
Sorry if I seem like im being a pain, I have just seen a lot of bad
choices
made based off limited data sets. With a wider data set we might find
that
Tuesdays are the slowest day for traffic, or some other factor that skews
the data. Ensuring data validation is important when making these types
of
calls based off the working dataset.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi John --
What do you think would be a better sample? My feeling is that a 24
hour
period captures global usage and we're
currently at about .01% of page
views come to these domains is a pretty good indicator. Keep in mind
we're
doing this for a legitimate technical reason and
not arbitrarily.
Looking
at the UAs is a good idea and we will do that.
thanks,
-Toby
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:55 AM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Can we look at a wider sample? using a single day as judgement
factor is
a
> bad idea. However if the data supports your position I dont see any
serious
> problems. You might want to take a look at either the UA's or
refering
> sources to see if there is a primary source
for the traffic and
mitigate
> that.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>
> > Looks like the user pageviews for
wap.wikipedia.org and
> >
mobile.wikipedia.org
> > subdomains are approximately 0.02% of the size of pageviews for
> >
m.wikipedia.org subdomains based on a recent one day check.
> >
> > hive> select count(*) from
> > wmf.webrequest where
> > year = 2015 and month = 7 and day = 14
> > and access_method = 'mobile web'
> > and (uri_host like '%.wap.wikipedia.org' OR uri_host like '%.
> > mobile.wikipedia.org')
> > and is_pageview = true and agent_type = 'user';
> >
> > 35,543
> >
> > hive> select count(*) from
> > wmf.webrequest where
> > year = 2015 and month = 7 and day = 14
> > and access_method = 'mobile web'
> > and uri_host like '%.m.wikipedia.org'
> > and is_pageview = true and agent_type = 'user';
> >
> > 202,024,891
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:41 AM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > ... Have we done any analysis on usage of those subdomains?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's a ticket for removing
mobile.wikipedia.org and
> >
wap.wikipedia.org
> > > > domains/subdomains, which are legacy domain names superceded by
> > > >
m.wikipedia.org and its subdomains.
> > > >
> > > >
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104942
> > > >
> > > > The rationale for the removal of these legacy domain names is
to
help
> > > > support HSTS preloading in browsers with the existing TLS SAN
cert.
> > > >
> > > > After review of the ticket, can anyone think of a compelling
reason
> to
> > > keep
> > > > those old domain names?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to open a separate thread on mobile-l about this
given
this
> > is
> > > > more mobile-targeted, yet some people only operate on one of
> wikitech-l
> > > or
> > > > mobile-l.
> > > >
> > > > -Adam
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