He visto en la wikipedia en español, en la palabra calamar, que hay una especie de plantilla y dentro hay unos datos.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamar
Yo tengo unas cuantas plantas y me gustaría crearme una wiki de ellas para uso personal, me gustaría que me dijerais como puedo crearme una plantilla parecida con los campos que yo quiero.
If you use the English language, more of us will understand you and will be able to help you.
wiwo wowi wrote:
He visto en la wikipedia en español, en la palabra calamar, que hay una especie de plantilla y dentro hay unos datos.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamar
Yo tengo unas cuantas plantas y me gustaría crearme una wiki de ellas para uso personal, me gustaría que me dijerais como puedo crearme una plantilla parecida con los campos que yo quiero. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Rotem Liss wrote:
If you use the English language, more of us will understand you and will be able to help you.
Please stop saying that everytime someone posts in a language other than your holy sacred one. He probably knows that himself. It is still up to him to use his own preference.
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:51:00PM +0100, Timwi wrote:
Rotem Liss wrote:
If you use the English language, more of us will understand you and will be able to help you.
Please stop saying that everytime someone posts in a language other than your holy sacred one. He probably knows that himself. It is still up to
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him to use his own preference.
Please stop using strawman arguments, especially to attack people who are trying to be helpful.
Cheers, -- jra
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:00:25PM +0100, Timwi wrote:
Please stop using strawman arguments, especially to attack people who are trying to be helpful.
"Speak English or get lost" is not trying to be helpful.
It is also not even *remotely* what he said; hence my characterization of your argument as a strawman.
But perhaps you just want an argument. :-) Down the hall, door 6.
Cheers, -- jra
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:03:09PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:00:25PM +0100, Timwi wrote:
Please stop using strawman arguments, especially to attack people who are trying to be helpful.
"Speak English or get lost" is not trying to be helpful.
It is also not even *remotely* what he said; hence my characterization of your argument as a strawman.
But perhaps you just want an argument. :-) Down the hall, door 6.
Ditto.
strawman/ad hominem: I wonder if Timwi got up on the wrong side of the bed today.
helpful statement: I really think discussion would be more productive if you didn't assume the worst from everyone, Timwi. I think we Wikipedians tend to call my proposed approach an assumption of good faith -- or is that Wikimedians?
On Apr 27, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:03:09PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:00:25PM +0100, Timwi wrote:
Please stop using strawman arguments, especially to attack people who are trying to be helpful.
"Speak English or get lost" is not trying to be helpful.
It is also not even *remotely* what he said; hence my characterization of your argument as a strawman.
But perhaps you just want an argument. :-) Down the hall, door 6.
Ditto.
strawman/ad hominem: I wonder if Timwi got up on the wrong side of the bed today.
helpful statement: I really think discussion would be more productive if you didn't assume the worst from everyone, Timwi. I think we Wikipedians tend to call my proposed approach an assumption of good faith -- or is that Wikimedians?
I don't think Timwi got up on the wrong side of the bed - at least, not him specifically. I think this entire mailing list needs some de- toxification - Just don't worry about personal stuff. Original poster, you should PROBABLY have thought out your comment a bit before posting it, although I understand it totally - what you meant to say is that this is a majorly english list and that it will be EASIER for us to help the user in the most comprehensive way possible if he could try to phrase his request in said language. Timwi, what he said was not completely the nicest way to greet a non-english MediaWiki user, but scolding him in a public list was not the solution. Jay - don't label him as an arguer; he isn't. He was angered by the (appearantly) unfriendly treatment of a new poster to the list - as you could be in another circumstance; let him be! And Chad, think for a moment about what was going through Timwi's mind when he replied - we don't always have the chance to fully think things through before we speak, and a mailing list is no different.
I hope I might have improved this list in some fashion with this post; and I surely apologize if I annoyed anybody in the process. What say we let this conversation die here; the OP's question was answered, and there has already been enough of a start toward a multi- faceted mud-slinging contest that I don't want to see here. Ok? So, if your hitting the reply button to reply to this... just, in the interest of peace, don't! (-:
I truly hope you will have a nice day!
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:51:24PM -0800, Elliott F. Cable wrote:
I don't think Timwi got up on the wrong side of the bed - at least, not him specifically. I think this entire mailing list needs some de- toxification - Just don't worry about personal stuff. Original poster, you should PROBABLY have thought out your comment a bit before posting it, although I understand it totally - what you meant to say is that this is a majorly english list and that it will be EASIER for us to help the user in the most comprehensive way possible if he could try to phrase his request in said language. Timwi, what he said was not completely the nicest way to greet a non-english MediaWiki user, but scolding him in a public list was not the solution. Jay - don't label him as an arguer; he isn't. He was angered by the (appearantly) unfriendly treatment of a new poster to the list - as you could be in another circumstance; let him be! And Chad, think for a moment about what was going through Timwi's mind when he replied - we don't always have the chance to fully think things through before we speak, and a mailing list is no different.
That notion that he got up on the wrong side of the bed today arose because this is not the only thread in which he has apparently assumed bad faith from the beginning in response to others' commentary. This isn't meant to provoke further discussion, only to indicate my thinking on the matter. Since misunderstanding is probably the biggest contributor to excess heat, I figure additional understanding of my perspective might come in handy.
No insult or other negative connotation is intended. It's more a case of wanting to prompt others to assume good faith when possible. A single incidence would not have prompted me to comment thusly: multiple incidents, however, make me think a comment might help to cause people to think more before posting to the list. I don't want an attempt to halt potential arguing in this thread to prevent that from getting across, when the intent is to reduce unnecessary arguing in more threads than just this one.
Chad Perrin wrote:
That notion that he got up on the wrong side of the bed today arose because this is not the only thread in which he has apparently assumed bad faith from the beginning in response to others' commentary.
Hm, I can see how you get this impression. The kinds of postings where I would be less critical tend to be replied to faster than I can, and I would only be repeating what others have already said ;-)
Timwi
Esta pregunta está fuera de lugar en esta lista. Puedes ver http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template para entender un poco como funcionan las plantillas. La taxobox en concreto es bastante complicada. Para consultas sobre cómo 'funciona' la wikipedia, te aconsejo que vayas al Café http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9
"wiwo wowi" wiwowowi@gmail.com escribió en el mensaje news:dedc8c50604260822q501d1741j9614708ed7dad528@mail.gmail.com... He visto en la wikipedia en español, en la palabra calamar, que hay una especie de plantilla y dentro hay unos datos.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamar
Yo tengo unas cuantas plantas y me gustaría crearme una wiki de ellas para uso personal, me gustaría que me dijerais como puedo crearme una plantilla parecida con los campos que yo quiero.
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