On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry I dropped the ball on this. I've created the following 2 actionable tasks: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139300 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139301
I hope we can reach a decision somewhat promptly with this.
Jon, I like both of these.
First one: deciding what to do with CREDITS as a format process. On some of my smaller projects I've started adding more patch contributors into a main CREDITS file, which I think is a lot better than trying to distinguish who's More Creditable. I lean towards putting in everyone who submits a patch, in alpha order.
(I will say when I was asked to add my name to the AUTHORS file on the 'emscripten' cross-compiler for what I felt was a small patch, it made me feel very appreciated -- and made me want to contribute more!)
I think we should either adopt that, or at least adopt _some_ consistent process, and update the file to match based on what we can see.
Second one: removing the @author attributions on individual files. While it can be nice to go back and say "hey it says I wrote this code!" it's also very misleading to people who see attributions from 10 years ago and then ask those people for help, and we have to say "sorry it's been completely refactored since, but I'll try!" :) Major refactors may, or may not, update the @authors bits.
I suspect either we should remove them, or have a rule that we're much more amenable about including patchers and refactorers in them.
These should probably both go through our ArchCom RfC process, which we're trying to get more involvement in both from WMFers and others.
-- brion
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Scott MacLeod helianth@gmail.com wrote:
Rob and Wikimedians,
To further credit the work of Wikimedia community members, could we
explore
using the Douglas Adams' SQID example (which Markus shared with the Wikidata list recently ... [Wikidata] SQID evolved again: references http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q42 ) ... and build upon this incorporating the Wikipedia user pages (and your above examples) a Wikipedia crediting process anticipating/planning for all 11 billion
people
(an estimate from Swedish statistician Hans Rosling and many others) in
all
8,000 languages. (CC World University and school is planning in parallel
to
be in all 8,000 languages and plan for all people on earth by 2100, as
well
as seek to build in Bitcoin and Blockchain in conjunction with developing best STEM CC OpenCourseWare centric law schools in all countries' main languages, even as WUaS develops CC university degrees accrediting on CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC).
This would potentially lead to further planning for integrating Wikidata/Wikibase via SQID with Wikitech/Wikimedia/Wikipedia community members' contributions and in many languages.
Cheers, Scott
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
Is there a Phabricator task [associated with MediaWiki CREDITS file
membership] so this topic does not get forgotten?
Not that I'm aware of. It's easy to get lost looking through the various attempts to objectively characterize contributions (he says, just emerging from the fog of doing so himself). Here's a few places a person could go:
- https://korma.wmflabs.org/browser/scm.html
- https://www.openhub.net/p/mediawiki/contributors
- https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/graphs/contributors
- http://koti.kapsi.fi/~federico/crstats/core.txt
...and that's hardly comprehensive. The "productivity of mediawiki developers" thread from April[1] probably has some other sources I've missed. If I were to spend more time on this, I would start looking for the Phab tickets associated with the stats on Korma.
I concur with Jon that we should endeavor to move to a more objective (and ideally, more automated) mechanism for acknowledgement, so that we don't have to rely on contributors confidently declaring that they deserve acknowledgement.
Rob [1]
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/86127
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