On 8/23/15, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Admins? And who are those? Please build a listing of every admin for every possible technical venue relating to Wikimedia.
While you're at it, we're going to need them to have a shared hivemind so enforcement is consistent between venues. They're also going to need to communicate about sanctions so that behaviour spilling over to multiple venues can be factored in. And while you're doing /that/ please make sure they all have an appropriate protocol for appealing things and passing issues upwards.
Or we could have a committee.
I get that this is a technical environment and we are all, myself included, used to being able to chip in anywhere with some utility. But please have some respect for the people coming up with these ideas. The idea of a code of conduct and an associated committee is coming from smart people, and it did not spring fully-formed from their brow like Athena from Zeus. It came from literal decades of work by many, many other smart people in a vast number of communities that have tried a ton of options. And when we say "why don't we just do obvious_thing_x?" we are demonstrating a total failure to respect the expertise other people have in this sort of process, which is generally /not/ our expertise, and failing to do research to boot. If it helps, imagine that instead of talking to this group about behavioural policies, you were explaining to C.Scott or Subbu why their idea for a parser is overly complicated and they /totally/ don't need to be doing $THING.
So my suggestion - and this is something I have tried to follow myself when I don't understand the point of something in the form "bad things are happening, why don't we do X" is to literally google "why isn't [the obviously simple thing I thought of] a good idea?", and see what smart people have already written. It saves from forcing marginalised individuals to repeat, for the fiftieth time in a thread, why X is a good approach here, and I tend to learn something along the way.
Really, you're going to tell people to STFW on a thread about conduct?