*It's a reasonable ask to have the file there *Correct, its reasonable to
ask. Forcing it down peoples throats and cluttering 830+ repos with the
same file is not. Why not have it in the primary mediawiki directory and
note that it covers all sub-projects? Threatening users and telling users
that disagrees with your position about a file requirement not in the CoC
is flat out intimidation. Instead of saying *Maybe this should be brought
up for discussion *users are now defending and threatening users who
questioned them. Just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Feel free to
continue to personally attack those who you disagree with, instead of the
subject mater. Whatever
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Ryan Lane <rlane32(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The most likely way for people to see codes of conduct
is through
repositories, which lets them know they have some way to combat harassment
in the tool they're using to try to contribute to a particular repository.
It makes sense to have a CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md in the repos; however, if all
the repos are using the same policy, it's often better to have a minimal
CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md that simply says "This repo is governed by the blah blah
code of conduct, specified here: <link>". This makes it possible to have a
single boilerplate code of conduct without needing to update every repo
whenever the CoC changes.
It's a reasonable ask to have the file there, and this discussion feels
like a thinly veiled argument against CoCs as a whole. If you're so against
the md file, or against the CoC as a whole, github and/or gitlab are fine
places to host a repository.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 5:39 PM, John <phoenixoverride(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly I find forcing documentation into repos
to be abrasive, and
overstepping the bounds of the CoC.I also find the behavior of those
pushing such an approach to be hostile and overly aggressive. Why do you
need to force a copy of the CoC into every repo? Why not keep it in a
central location? What kind of mess would you need to cleanup if for some
reason you needed to adjust the contents of that file? Instead of having
one location to update you now have 800+ copies that need fixed.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:23 PM, Yaron Koren <yaron(a)wikiworks.com> wrote:
Chris Koerner <nobelx at gmail.com>
wrote:
> “Please just assume for the sake of this discussion that (a) I'm
willing
> > to abide by the rules of the Code of Conduct, and (b) I don't want
the
>
CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md file in my extensions.”
> Ok, hear me out here. What if I told you those two things are
> incompatible? That abiding by the community agreements requires the
file
> > as an explicit declaration of said agreement. That is to say, if we
had
> a
discussion about amending the CoC to be explicit about this
expectation
> you wouldn’t have issues with including it?
Or at least you’d be OK
with
> > it?
>
> Brian is right that adding a requirement to include this file to the
CoC
> would be an odd move. But, if it did happen,
I don't know - I suppose
I'd
> have two choices: either include the files
or remove my code. I would
be
an
> improvement over the current situation in at least one way: we would
know
that
rules are still created in an orderly, consensus-like way, as
opposed
> to now, where a small group of developers can apparently make up rules
as
they go
along.
-Yaron
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