1 day isnt much to base a decision on, especially on a global level. Normally I would use a sample set of at least a week, to a month of values. Sorry if I seem like im being a pain, I have just seen a lot of bad choices made based off limited data sets. With a wider data set we might find that Tuesdays are the slowest day for traffic, or some other factor that skews the data. Ensuring data validation is important when making these types of calls based off the working dataset.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi John --
What do you think would be a better sample? My feeling is that a 24 hour period captures global usage and we're currently at about .01% of page views come to these domains is a pretty good indicator. Keep in mind we're doing this for a legitimate technical reason and not arbitrarily. Looking at the UAs is a good idea and we will do that.
thanks,
-Toby
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:55 AM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com wrote:
Can we look at a wider sample? using a single day as judgement factor is
a
bad idea. However if the data supports your position I dont see any
serious
problems. You might want to take a look at either the UA's or refering sources to see if there is a primary source for the traffic and mitigate that.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Looks like the user pageviews for wap.wikipedia.org and mobile.wikipedia.org subdomains are approximately 0.02% of the size of pageviews for m.wikipedia.org subdomains based on a recent one day check.
hive> select count(*) from wmf.webrequest where year = 2015 and month = 7 and day = 14 and access_method = 'mobile web' and (uri_host like '%.wap.wikipedia.org' OR uri_host like '%. mobile.wikipedia.org') and is_pageview = true and agent_type = 'user';
35,543
hive> select count(*) from wmf.webrequest where year = 2015 and month = 7 and day = 14 and access_method = 'mobile web' and uri_host like '%.m.wikipedia.org' and is_pageview = true and agent_type = 'user';
202,024,891
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:41 AM, John phoenixoverride@gmail.com
wrote:
... Have we done any analysis on usage of those subdomains?
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org
wrote:
There's a ticket for removing mobile.wikipedia.org and
wap.wikipedia.org
domains/subdomains, which are legacy domain names superceded by m.wikipedia.org and its subdomains.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104942
The rationale for the removal of these legacy domain names is to
help
support HSTS preloading in browsers with the existing TLS SAN cert.
After review of the ticket, can anyone think of a compelling reason
to
keep
those old domain names?
I'm going to open a separate thread on mobile-l about this given
this
is
more mobile-targeted, yet some people only operate on one of
wikitech-l
or
mobile-l.
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