When people know that rev X was removed at time Y, trolls go to the old xml dumps, find, and post the content, as I believe has happened in the past. It's much easier to do that with a public log.
-Aaron
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Aryeh Gregor" Simetrical+wikilist@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:12 PM To: "Wikimedia developers" wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision & log suppression for oversighters
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aryeh Gregor Simetrical+wikilist@gmail.com wrote:
Question: what's logging like for this? Are there public logs? Even just "User:So-and-so disabled bits Z, Y, and X of revision W, article [[Blah blah]]" would be very beneficial to have in the public eye, IMO.
Apparently there aren't.
// Put things hidden from sysops in the oversight log $logtype = ( ($nbitfield | $obitfield) &Revision::DELETED_RESTRICTED ) ? 'suppress' : 'delete';
Could I ask what the reasoning is for this? I can see the reasoning for CheckUser being almost entirely secret, but it seems impossible to me that there's any scenario in which the mere action of the removal needs to be hidden. Are there any objections to at least adding a summary-less public log entry in addition to the full private entry? Actually, if there are reasons why the summary couldn't be public too, I'd like to hear those.
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