On 11/12/13 22:21, Ryan Lane wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroendedauw@gmail.comwrote:
In recent months I've come across a few mails on this list that only contained accusations of trolling. Those are very much not constructive and only serve to antagonize. I know some forums that have an explicit rule against this, which results in a ban on second violation. If there is a definition of the etiquette for this list somewhere, I suggest having a similar rule be added there. Thoughts?
To be fair, you were proposing that we use a proprietary third party web site for editing wikimedia wiki pages, which would violate out privacy policy and break our principles of openness. How was I not to think you were trolling? My only alternative was to think you've simply lost your mind.
- Ryan
From a common (wiki) user standpoint, however, gerrit for instance might as well be a proprietary third party website as well - it's not easily accessible or directly connected to the wiki (different accounts, different interface, etc), so many of the same principles apply there too.
This does support Matt's point, though - we all come into discussions with different perspectives, so if someone looks at it like a content editor and another looks at it like a platform developer, of course they might think the other is trolling because these perspectives can be so very different. We're not necessarily seeing or discussing the same things, and that's actually a good thing because it means we can cover the different sides of the problems better, but we do need to keep that in mind for it to work.
-I