David Gerard wrote:
On 10 August 2015 at 14:18, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
A proposed code of conduct like this is quite expensive to implement and enforce/maintain. I personally don't get the sense from reading your replies that you acknowledge the high cost.
In practice, EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S ADOPTED ONE hasn't found this.
I'm curious which comparable organizations you're referring to. I think many groups have an easier time implementing codes of conduct because they're dealing with a largely homogenous group and/or there's usually a clear power structure in place (e.g., full-time staff who are paid to act as discussion moderators). Volunteer-run sites that are more global in nature, such as Reddit or even the English Wikipedia, have had incredible difficulty implementing a code of conduct, as I understand it.
In 2015, any tech organisation *without* a good, solid code of conduct of this sort is seriously backward and questionable. It's something you have to seriously justify not having, and so far there haven't been serious justifications offered as to why Wikimedia is a special snowflake in this regard.
I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. We already have:
* https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick [*] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_policy
Is yet another page really needed?
MZMcBride
[*] This page was moved to Meta-Wiki by you over a decade ago. Given that you're pointing out that it's currently 2015, it seems reasonable to note that we've had similar (in spirit, anyway) pages to the one being proposed for quite some time.