Tell the users to complain to Apple? .. Bring up anti-competitive
lawsuits against apple? Buy a Mobil device that is less locked down?
There is no easy solution when the platform is a walled garden. There
are two paths towards supporting html5 video in mobile platforms.
1) getting things working within the provided web browser platform
or
2) running your own browser software as an application (we only should
consider a normal phone obviously on a jail-broken device you can do
lots of things... but that greatly reduces the possibility of wide
deployment)
I was looking at this situation for the iPhone and Android based phones.
I think android based phones have a better shot at supporting ogg theora
html5 video in the near term. In the long term the market will drive the
devices to support ogg or not.
iPhone
1) The internals of the quicktime/media system for the iPhone are not
very exposed nor do they appear to be very extendable.
2) The Apple SDK agreement forbids virtual machines of any kind. This
effectively makes competing web browsers illegal.
Android / HTC phones:
1) I would hope google/android would ship theora/html5 support since
theora will be supported in their desktop webkit based chrome browser. I
think it would be relatively easy for a given android based phone
distributer to support ogg once webkit on android supports html5 video.
2) Android recently added native code exposure:
I wonder if this could be a path for a port of Firefox or a custom
version of the open source webkit browser on android?
--michael
David Gerard wrote:
Another answer - it'd be "custom app"
time.
So the question is: what do we tell iPhone users?
- d.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs(a)apple.com>
Date: 2009/7/10
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora <video> in the real world
To: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
Cc: WHATWG Proposals <whatwg(a)lists.whatwg.org>
On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:59 PM, David Gerard wrote:
The question is what to do for platforms such as
the iPhone, which
doesn't even run Java.
Is there any way to install an additional codec in the iPhone browser?
Is it (even theoretically) possible to put a free app on the AppStore
just to play Ogg Theora video for our users? (There are many AppStore
apps that support Ogg Vorbis, don't know if any support Theora - so
presumably AppStore stuff doesn't give Apple the feared submarine
patent exposure.)
Just by way of factual information:
There's no Java in the iPhone version of Safari. There are no browser
plugins. There is no facility for systemwide codec plugins. There is
no way to get an App Store app to launch automatically from Web
content. I don't think there is any obstacle to posting an App Store
app that does nothing but play videos from WikiPedia, the way the
YouTube app plays YouTube videos. But I don't think there is a way to
integrate it with browsing.
Regards,
Maciej
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