On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So bot tasks are sometimes performed from user
accounts that don't belong
to bots... o_O why?!
No, some of bots tasks needs to be seen and reviewed by others, for example
there are bots that do task per user request in a page (like an automated
vending machine that people can go to a page and request things and bots do
it automatically), or automated reverts (that are being made by clue bot
NG) or other things that people exampled before in this discussion
(forgive my naivety I come into this conversation as an outside with no
prior knowledge of how this stuff works)
On 20 May 2014 14:09, "Amir Ladsgroup" <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Jon Robson
<jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm confused. Why wouldn't you just mark
a user account as being a bot
and
simply determine bot edits from username alone?
Any other mechanism seems prone to abuse or being inaccurate...
People gave several examples of bot tasks that needs to be seen in RC and
they weren't abuse
On 20 May 2014 07:36, "Amir Ladsgroup"
<ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you legoktm for exampling,
Another case that happened in Persian Wikipedia, is creating
bot-generated
> articles by user request this task is too contervisal to be marked as
bot
> > and we didn't mark it but other edits of my bot is marked as bot
> >
> > Best
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Legoktm <
legoktm.wikipedia(a)gmail.com
>
>wrote:
>
> >
> > On 5/19/14, 6:39 PM, Dan Garry wrote:
> >
> >> On 19 May 2014 19:36, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> As a bot operator I think API parameter about flagging bot or not
is
> > >>> necessary
> > >>>
> > >>> Sure, but as I'm not a bot operator, can you explain why and
what
> you
> > >> use
> > >> this for, to help me understand? :-)
> > >>
> > >
> > > If the edits should show up in users watchlists/recentchanges for
> humans
> > > to look at. An example would be ClueBot NG on enwp which doesn't
flag
>
it's
> > edits with the bot flag so humans can review them.
> >
> > Another case where this recently came up is in MassMessage (bug
65180).
> Some
edits like those to user talk pages should be marked as a bot
since
> > the user will receive a notification regardless, but ones that are
made
> > to
> > > Project (or other) namespaces, should not be flagged as bot so
users
will
> see them in their watchlists.
>
> -- Legoktm
>
>
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