On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
So bot tasks are sometimes performed from user accounts that don't belong to bots... o_O why?!
No, some of bots tasks needs to be seen and reviewed by others, for example there are bots that do task per user request in a page (like an automated vending machine that people can go to a page and request things and bots do it automatically), or automated reverts (that are being made by clue bot NG) or other things that people exampled before in this discussion
(forgive my naivety I come into this conversation as an outside with no prior knowledge of how this stuff works) On 20 May 2014 14:09, "Amir Ladsgroup" ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
I'm confused. Why wouldn't you just mark a user account as being a bot
and
simply determine bot edits from username alone?
Any other mechanism seems prone to abuse or being inaccurate...
People gave several examples of bot tasks that needs to be seen in RC and they weren't abuse
On 20 May 2014 07:36, "Amir Ladsgroup" ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you legoktm for exampling, Another case that happened in Persian Wikipedia, is creating
bot-generated
articles by user request this task is too contervisal to be marked as
bot
and we didn't mark it but other edits of my bot is marked as bot
Best
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Legoktm <
legoktm.wikipedia@gmail.com
wrote:
On 5/19/14, 6:39 PM, Dan Garry wrote:
On 19 May 2014 19:36, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
As a bot operator I think API parameter about flagging bot or not
is
> necessary > > Sure, but as I'm not a bot operator, can you explain why and
what
you
use this for, to help me understand? :-)
If the edits should show up in users watchlists/recentchanges for
humans
to look at. An example would be ClueBot NG on enwp which doesn't
flag
it's
edits with the bot flag so humans can review them.
Another case where this recently came up is in MassMessage (bug
65180).
Some edits like those to user talk pages should be marked as a bot
since
the user will receive a notification regardless, but ones that are
made
to
Project (or other) namespaces, should not be flagged as bot so
users
will
see them in their watchlists.
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